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is training at altitude fair? as some live higher up than others they have an unfair advantage no?
how 'clean' is pro cycling
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is training at altitude fair? as some live higher up than others they have an unfair advantage no?
lukesdad
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david k
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i just feel that at time testing in sport is a bit of a charade as there are so many drugs, masking agents and techniques its hard to know who is taking something illegal to gain advantage. Some drugs are found in everyday over the counter cold remedies etc. We all take the same drugs yet sneer at the pros when they re tested for them, its so hard to know it what context it was taken
Im also not convinced that all banned drugs are harmful, not sure about cycling but some other sports ban creatine and caffiene etc. which i believe are naturally formed substances.
So my follow up question is where is the line? Not saying i know but i just dont believe its that simple to know. if sportsmen and women push to be at the top they will take supplements to get better results, seems reasonable to me, when does a supplement become cheating?
Im also not convinced that all banned drugs are harmful, not sure about cycling but some other sports ban creatine and caffiene etc. which i believe are naturally formed substances.
So my follow up question is where is the line? Not saying i know but i just dont believe its that simple to know. if sportsmen and women push to be at the top they will take supplements to get better results, seems reasonable to me, when does a supplement become cheating?
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david k
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we just dont know really do we, and with my previous post, what is cheating and what isnt?
just jim
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There is a case for those riders who live at high altitude to train at a lower altitude to make more level playing field, and vice-versa. The UCI should set a benchmark altitude. Nobody is going to say this, but everyone thinks it.
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if no one is saying it - how can you draw the conclusion that everyone thinks it ?
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david k
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honestly??? i was being tongue in cheek!
just jim
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me too.
oldroadman
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The line is simple - the WADA list. If it says banned on there, that's it. No further discussion needed. And to see if the peloton is cleaner, look at the state of riders finishing on a mountain topfinish, compared to a some years ago. Then they were all calm and reasonably OK, now they are mostly shredded, unless they have a win, when the adrenaline keeps you smiling for the last 50 metres!
Speedywheelsjeans
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I would suspect sport is getting cleaner as a whole, not many cases seem to be brought into the public eye, athletes that are caught are shamed. Athletes train very hard these days and are paid a lot of money to do so, why risk your livelihood with cheating allegations. But then again I actually dont know, its all opinion based. We dont know about who has shares where, whos being paid to keep quiet, what masking drugs are being used.
Only the athletes can tell you how clean they are... and they arent going to are they?
Only the athletes can tell you how clean they are... and they arent going to are they?
