How can wearing a helmet offer no protection from injury?

[mcshroom]

You are making leaps that your 'evidence' doesn't support. If the helmets have no/minimal effect then the fact that as a tribe MTBers have decided to adopt them is not going to have changed the injury rate. Of course you could always prove that the change to the staus quo has changed the stats

 

[mcshroom]

There has you just don't accept it. Funny, that happens a lot as well

 

[classic33]

I'm still waiting for some-one to say when a helmet would need to be worn in my case. If you answer, please say why you think that way.

 

[mcshroom]

[QUOTE 2157058, member: 45"]It's not been quoted.

Perhaps you could point out which of your posts was the response. I do hope that it was the one about there being little in it, and any difference being trivial......[/quote]

Try most of page 29 - or just keep plugging your own line and ignoring everything that is said to you. Your choice of course, no compulsion here

 

[lukesdad]

You are making leaps that your 'evidence' doesn't support. If the helmets have no/minimal effect then the fact that as a tribe MTBers have decided to adopt them is not going to have changed the injury rate. Of course you could always prove that the change to the staus quo has changed the stats

Hold on I havn t leapt to anything nor have I made any claims, you are the evidence expert. All ive asked is for you to show me some evidence so that I can make an informed choice, something that so far you seem to be dodging

 

[lukesdad]

I'm still waiting for some-one to say when a helmet would need to be worn in my case. If you answer, please say why you think that way.

I dont think anybody with half an atom is going to give you that advice

 

[mcshroom]

To quote: -

Thats the point dear chap it proves most mtbers wear helmets nothing more nothing less, but unfortunately with your low injury figures its the only real evidence to go on when it comes to mtbing would you not agree ? Of course you could come up with some other evidence...

You are not asserting anything but you ask me to agree that the low injury figures are correlated with high helmet useage. There is no causal link there to agree with or not.

 

[mcshroom]

[QUOTE 2157065, member: 45"]Sorry. I asked you a simple question. You've not answered it. There's been a fair bit of avoidance, but you've not answered it.....

Same route - cycling or walking?[/quote]

I gave you the numbers for the same route, the UK figures comparing pedestrians and cyclists and the USA figures for good measure. Each compared with those using the same transport systems, therefore the 'same route'.

That you cling to a straw man of some mythical identical route shows how desperate you are to avoid the actual data.

 

[classic33]

I dont think anybody with half an atom is going to give you that advice

Its not advice thats being sought. But the ongoing debate that helmets protect you from injury when worn has now reached the pedestrian level.
Everyone seems keen to point out that they are correct, often giving data to back up their argument. But no-one seems willing or able to answer the question I asked. Some on here may remember the old style leather racing helmets. Where are they now!

 

[lukesdad]

To quote: -


You are not asserting anything but you ask me to agree that the low injury figures are correlated with high helmet useage. There is no causal link there to agree with or not.

Read it again that is not what I asked , Im interested in these stats you reffered to.

 

[ufkacbln]

Because cars do not usually travel on pavements.

Next ?

They do around here!

We have a local Car Boot Sale on Sunday and every inch of pavement within about 3/4 mile is filled with cars!

 

[mcshroom]

from the Stats, walking (though the error margin and low injury rates for either are such that the difference is negligible). You are very unlikely to be injured using either mode of transport.

So why should one mode warrent head protection and the other not?

 

[Crosstrailer]

Velocity

 

[mcshroom]

Velocity

=speed/time

 

[classic33]

[QUOTE 2157080, member: 45"]I was in a class on Wednesday where a child was wearing a padded helmet, but that's just a diversion.

The truth is that it's not really significant isn't it?[/quote]
But where are the old syle cycling helmets & why do we see very few cyclists now using them?