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[rockyroller]

when I got back to my Mother's house I wanted to test the outdoor shower my Grand Father installed 58 years ago

it works!

but only when I cover a split connector w/ my hand!

I guess at some point, someone, or all of us, forgot to turn off the shut-off valve inside & drain the outside valves. ugh what a shame

they have very powerful water pressure, so I doubt any JB Weld brand pipe repair wrap product would work, but tempted to try. but from what I could feel, it's a sizable split

J-B Weld FiberWeld 2” Pipe Repair Cast​

 

[Profpointy]

Been sanding our dining room floor; hitherto it is been my workshop/junk room, but the domestic authorities have decreed it will be upgraded to a proper room. To be fair, this is a good idea really, even if a workshop was a nice thing to have

Anyhow, took a loose board up to find these underneath

It seems there was a bell system at some point. Mrs PP has been investigating old census records and most of the time there were multiple households living in the house but no mention of any servants. Interesting bit of history

 

[rockyroller]

Been sanding our dining room floor; hitherto it is been my workshop/junk room, but the domestic authorities have decreed it will be upgraded to a proper room. To be fair, this is a good idea really, even if a workshop was a nice thing to have

Anyhow, took a loose board up to find these underneath

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It seems there was a bell system at some point. Mrs PP has been investigating old census records and most of the time there were multiple households living in the house but no mention of any servants. Interesting bit of history

View: https://youtu.be/zgKxham7q7Y?si=Vbq1o1S8DWUlKVdc

 

[rogerzilla]

Ah, so that's why the downstairs toilet needed the flush handle pumping.

But the new Fluidmaster doughnut is waaaay too big. You'd think these would be a standard size, and they're sold "for all close-coupled pans". Bollocks are they. Off to Toolstation, which apparently sells the smaller 80mm size.

 

[rogerzilla]

when I got back to my Mother's house I wanted to test the outdoor shower my Grand Father installed 58 years ago

it works!
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but only when I cover a split connector w/ my hand!
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I guess at some point, someone, or all of us, forgot to turn off the shut-off valve inside & drain the outside valves. ugh what a shame
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they have very powerful water pressure, so I doubt any JB Weld brand pipe repair wrap product would work, but tempted to try. but from what I could feel, it's a sizable split
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J-B Weld FiberWeld 2” Pipe Repair Cast​

If that valve with the wheel head is the shutoff valve, it won't work anyway because it's (a) outdoors and (b) almost certainly a gate valve, which is completely useless at making a seal against mains pressure (and rarely much good against tank pressure either).

I'd drain it and get the blowlamp out. Solder as much as possible with dry pipe and make the valve connection to the supply last, which will be a compression fit. Soldering with Yorkshire fittings is easy if you know there is no moisture.

 

[rockyroller]

If that valve with the wheel head is the shutoff valve, it won't work anyway because it's (a) outdoors and (b) almost certainly a gate valve, which is completely useless at making a seal against mains pressure (and rarely much good against tank pressure either).

I'd drain it and get the blowlamp out. Solder as much as possible with dry pipe and make the valve connection to the supply last, which will be a compression fit. Soldering with Yorkshire fittings is easy if you know there is no moisture.

thank you. the shutoff is inside the wall. everything outside gets opened before winter sets in

 

[rogerzilla]

Looks like I need a 70mm *stepped* doughnut to fit this very obscure flush adaptor. I know it was fitted by a former neighbour, who is a boiler engineer and mediocre plumber on the side.

It looks like a back-to-the-wall pan with a proprietary close-coupled adaptor. That adaptor is flexy plastic and takes the weight of the cistern during fitting, although the cistern is subsequently screwed to the wall. It flexes. A lot.

If this doesn't work then a new pan is pretty cheap, although I'd also need a new Multikwik connector for the soil pipe. The cistern doesn't have its own bolt holes (it uses the external bolts on a close-coupled fixing kit) so it would fit most pans.

All this was unavoidable - the cistern HAS to come off to service or change a torn siphon diaphragm.

 

[newts]

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Looks like I need a 70mm *stepped* doughnut to fit this very obscure flush adaptor. I know it was fitted by a former neighbour, who is a boiler engineer and mediocre plumber on the side.

It looks like a back-to-the-wall pan with a proprietary close-coupled adaptor. That adaptor is flexy plastic and takes the weight of the cistern during fitting, although the cistern is subsequently screwed to the wall. It flexes. A lot.

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If this doesn't work then a new pan is pretty cheap, although I'd also need a new Multikwik connector for the soil pipe. The cistern doesn't have its own bolt holes (it uses the external bolts on a close-coupled fixing kit) so it would fit most pans.

All this was unavoidable - the cistern HAS to come off to service or change a torn siphon diaphragm.

Possibly Twyfords Nocturne close couple washer.
Lunns.net is god for wc spares

 

[rogerzilla]

It looks as if that is indeed what the plastic monstrosity is. Thanks.

 

[newts]

It looks as if that is indeed what the plastic monstrosity is. Thanks.

They are the work of the devil. It's probably worth replacing the ribbed washer that goes into the pan at the same time, it may leak now the rest of the plastic housing has been wiggled about.

 

[cyberknight]

Nothing exciting
I have been slowly painting the fences around the house over the last couple of weeks using it as gentle rehab for my thumb joint fusion.
On another subject the toilet remains unfinished as were still waiting for the builder to recover from his hernia operation .

 

[CXRAndy]

Fitted ethernet to my lads garage. Cutting open ceilings, to route cable, digging trench, lifting paving stones.

All working now. Got to go back and do remedial works

 

[rogerzilla]

They are the work of the devil. It's probably worth replacing the ribbed washer that goes into the pan at the same time, it may leak now the rest of the plastic housing has been wiggled about.

I doubt it will come out easily by now. I ordered the genuine Twyfords close coupling kit and the yellowish foam washer that comes with it looks as if it will do the job. Far more compressible than the usual black rubber doughnuts, and doesn't protrude into the pan inlet at all. These Nocturne accelerators have a 70mm inlet, smaller than a standard doughnut.

 

[Drago]

Just starting work building an understairs cupboard.

 

[newts]

I doubt it will come out easily by now. I ordered the genuine Twyfords close coupling kit and the yellowish foam washer that comes with it looks as if it will do the job. Far more compressible than the usual black rubber doughnuts, and doesn't protrude into the pan inlet at all. These Nocturne accelerators have a 70mm inlet, smaller than a standard doughnut.

Wise to swap the whole kit👍
I repaired a few of these in years gone by & it can be frustrating experience.