Has your helmet saved your life poll

[ufkacbln]

To me what is interesting is that despite all the emotive "wear a helmet or be a vegetable" and other panic-mongering, cyclists never, ever feature as a high risk group when you look at cohort studies of head injury admissions

 

[Dogtrousers]

You have to be an idiot not to wear one.

FACT

 

[srw]

THe other factors are:

1. There was a whole spectrumm of road improvements at this time with a clampdown on speeding, dangerous driving, tailgating, drunk driving, and vehicle standards. NOne of these were considerd annd any of them could have explained a decrease in cyclits injuries including head injuries

2. The data neds to be corrected for the number of cyclists. One of the most common errors with the Australian research is the failure to do this.
Yes - the number of head injuries decreased
However the number of cyclists had also decreased
When you factor this in, the number of head injuries was GREATER per cyclist / journey / mile after helmet introduction!

Whatthe Australian data really provess is that a compulsory helmet law INCREASES the hazard

Actually that article did seem to correct for number. But the amount of exposure data it had was small and there were some seriously dodgy proxies.

 

[ufkacbln]

Actually that article did seem to correct for number. But the amount of exposure data it had was small and there were some seriously dodgy proxies.

The general point is that the report neither fully accounts for the change in use, or for the effect of the other safety measures

 

[lay]

It appears cunknob has a 'comprehension' problem - the vitriol is eloquent you need some love in your life brother that hate is eating away at you.

I'll pray for him and a few others who're on this forum tonight.

Special thanks to theclaud - what a gal

 

[morrisman]

I'll pray for him and a few others who're on this forum tonight.

I'm positive that you praying for me, or anyone else, will have even less effect that wearing a helmet.

 

[glenn forger]

It appears cunknob

The weird thing is lay doesn't look like an attention-starved teenager in his photo, just goes to show.

 

[Wobblers]

Elsewhere a guy in the local cycle club who is 'old school' and never wears a cycle helmet just a cap crashed a month ago and fractured his skull and was in a coma for 2 weeks. Whilst he may still of been if he'd been wearing a helmet surely the added head protection would have lessened the chances of serious injury?

Impact protection of a helmet rated to EN1078: 50 Joules
Impact energy required to fracture a human skull: 500 Joules

Physics suggests the chances of a helmet lessening the probability of serious injury are small.

 

[Big Nick]

Impact protection of a helmet rated to EN1078: 50 Joules
Impact energy required to fracture a human skull: 500 Joules

Physics suggests the chances of a helmet lessening the probability of serious injury are small.

Oh pleeeease!!

 

[theclaud]

Oh pleeeease!!

He always messes everything up with facts. The big meanie.

 

[Wobblers]

No one, who's listening...im talking sense/intelligence - those who arent are lost to redicularity !

You'd have a little bit more credibility calling people stupid if you were able to spell "ridicularity". In fact you'd have a bit more credibility if "ridicularity" was a word. Perhaps you meant "ridiculousness"?

 

[Wobblers]

Oh pleeeease!!

Thank you for your insightful comment. Would it be possible for you to please supply an argument next time? Or indeed, insight?

 

[Big Nick]

Thank you for your insightful comment. Would it be possible for you to please supply an argument next time? Or indeed, insight?

Only if you do first!
'Argument' oh no sir I merely 'discuss'

 

[Wobblers]

If you need me to explain it, I'm perfectly happy to: any injury resulting in a fractured skull by definition involved energies which exceeded the helmet's ability to mitigate. That includes the SNELL rated helmets (75 J).

And you really need more than one - very badly misspelled - word to constitute a "discussion".


Over to you....

 

[Big Nick]

It was two words....