Has your helmet saved your life poll

[ufkacbln]

I'll look after me and you look after you. We will let the rest of the world figure out what they want to do regarding helmet safety.

Which would be fine, but that is not your stance - you have clearly stated that you want compulsory helmets for children.

 

[Pedrosanchezo]

You would either be a poor rider, or very unlucky to suffer such impacts on consecutive days
I think manufacturers would recommend that you replace the helmet after a 20mph impact, so you would have a new one for your 15 mph impact.

Yeh i never really meant that. Just meant that you cannot suggest, realistically, that you can only hit your head in one place. If a helmet is effective even from only the back (an example) then it would still be effective in some form.

 

[Pedrosanchezo]

Nope....... the evidence is the testing that is done to prove that they are able to take a certain impact.

EN1078 for instance requires an impact speed of between 5.42 to 5.52 m's when it strikes the anvil. That equates to between 12.12 to 12.35 mph.

So the simple fact is that they are only "proven" up to this speed.

It's a bit like a watch...... if it states waterproof to 10m would you wear it at 20m depth, and expect it to still be waterproof?



You do realise that you have answered your own point?

Why do they wear helmets, it is because it a regulation

This was covered before, and hasn't changed - The reason they wear helmets in a race is because they have to - hence the strikes when and non-compliance they were first introduced,

Also unchanged ( like it or not ) is that the choice of helmet really is down to sponsorship and advertising and nothing to do with choice

Finally there is no "law", it is simply not the case. It is a rule or regulation. They also state that Socks (and shoe covers) used in competition must not exceed the mid-distance between the ankle and the knee. Do you think that is because longer socks are more dangerous?

God help me. Now you are quoting me when i am talking to others. ...............

 

[ufkacbln]

Admittedly a very small dog, but it fits the definition goes woof (well yaps), bites people (well nips at least) and cr@ps on cycle paths ( Not very big ones though) but in principle - it is a dog

As for the snail... ask it about the "Big Issue"
If it tries to sell you a copy, it is a slug.

 

[Pedrosanchezo]

Which would be fine, but that is not your stance - you have clearly stated that you want compulsory helmets for children.

I don't "want" anything. That is my opinion.

If i were catholic i would believe in God. That wouldn't mean i insist the rest of the world do so too. I may on the other hand talk positively about it.

In realising that there are a few nutters in this thread i feel i should point out that i do not wish to affiliate myself with religion, its byproducts or any discussion relating to anything but cycle helmets. Purely used as an example.

note: how bad is it that i feel i have to state that ^^^ I blame Cunobelin, he's got me shredding my documents just incase he's in my bin raking for more fun quotes.

 

[ufkacbln]

God help me. Now you are quoting me when i am talking to others. ...............

I really shouldn't need to explain this to you, but I am afraid that the way this and most forums work is that if you post something it is open to comment from everybody.

If you want a private conversation, the general method is to use a PM or start a conversation.

 

[Pedrosanchezo]

I really shouldn't need to explain this to you, but I am afraid that the way this and most forums work is that if you post something it is open to comment from everybody.

If you want a private conversation, the general method is to use a PM or start a conversation.

I am well aware of forum etiquette. I think it maybe related to my previous post.

 

[ufkacbln]

I don't "want" anything. That is my opinion.

If i were catholic i would believe in God. That wouldn't mean i insist the rest of the world do so too. I may on the other hand talk positively about it.

In realising that there are a few nutters in this thread i feel i should point out that i do not wish to affiliate myself with religion, its byproducts or any discussion relating to anything but cycle helmets. Purely used as an example.

note: how bad is it that i feel i have to state that ^^^ I blame Cunobelin, he's got me shredding my documents just incase he's in my bin raking for more fun quotes.

So in your opinion, all parents should be able to choose whether their child wears a helmet or not?

 

[Pedrosanchezo]

So in your opinion, all parents should be able to choose whether their child wears a helmet or not?

As it stands i can't think of a better option. I'd suggest the older they get the more grey the area will become though.

 

[newfhouse]

This is all very bizarre to me. I wear a helmet whilst cycling but not walking. It is my choice and my opinion. Why has everyone gone mad about their opinions and try to change others???? Also, is this a cycling forum or a walking forum? It seems like this is an issue where a lot people join in just to have a go at each other. Would it not be better just to state why you wear a helmet or not and the reasons why, and not try to change other peoples opinions

Just a thought......or alternatively carry on as you are.

I don't try to persuade others to stop wearing helmets, although it makes me sad that they feel the need (as I once did.) I am keen to stop anyone persuading the powers that be to make helmets compulsory for adults or children.

The agenda thread is here btw.

 

[Pedrosanchezo]

Byeee (more in hope than expectation)

Wasn't aware this was your house? Can't be surely. If it was you would have been more welcoming (more in hope than expectation).

 

[david k]

People regularly question my decision not to wear a helmet actually, on here and in real life. And, again, you don't need to justify your choice to anybody, but if you're going to participate in a frickin helmet discussion on this or any other internet discussion forum you should be prepared to have the pre-conceived notions upon which you base your beliefs challenged.

happy with that

 

[Alun]

As it stands i can't think of a better option. I'd suggest the older they get the more grey the area will become though.

Have you changed your stance on helmet compulsion for children, well done !

 

[Pedrosanchezo]

Have you changed your stance on helmet compulsion for children, well done !

No i haven't. "As it stands". This would refer to the current laws.

again though it's not a stance, it's an opinion. We all have them. some of us like to think it's fact though.

 

[Alun]

If i were catholic i would believe in God. That wouldn't mean i insist the rest of the world do so too. I may on the other hand talk positively about it.

Don't go there !!