Go on, admit, who is both a 4x4 owner and a cyclist ?

[rugby bloke]

Often rightly portrayed as natural enemies, who has a foot in both camps ? I do, as an owner of what would be described as a big ass German 4x4 and a couple of bikes. But I like to think my experience as a road cyclist informs my approach when driving. The advantage is that when I slow down, give way, allow space and generally treat cyclists with due caution, other car drivers cannot push me around !

 

[fossyant]

Does it go off road though, you know, like up curbs ?

 

[Drago]

Me.

My own personal cars (as opposed to the Wife's motors) are always Fourbies. So what? It does go regularly off road to at least a minor degree (more than a Mondeo would manage) for my Search and Rescue work.

Being that I am a cyclist I only drive about 3,000 miles a year, so my filthy Earth-raping, nun-murdering, orphan-torturing, puppy-destroying 4x4 accounts for much less emissions than someone in a Nissan Leaf doing a more typical 10-12,000 annual miles.

Typically Fourbie insurance is also lower than conventional saloons or hatches of similar value - Seeing as insurers base their fees on "risk", by their reckoning we're presenting less of a risk to life, limb and property than drivers of normal cars (such drivers are called"Normies")

 

[Lonestar]

Im only an enemy of dangerous drivers I have no problem with responsible people irrelevant of what vehicle they drive.

 

[Markymark]

Me. Audi 4x4 and 335 BMW convertible.

Apparently cyclists don't give each other a bad name therefor 4x4 drivers don't give each other a bad name either.

 

[Drago]

Problem is the BMW X series, Audi Q series, have virtually no off road or snow capacity. It's the automotive equivalent of Clark Kent dressing up as Superman. I don't have a problem if that's what people fancy, I just can't see the point.

 

[Lonestar]

Me. Audi 4x4 and 335 BMW convertible.

Apparently cyclists don't give each other a bad name therefor 4x4 drivers don't give each other a bad name either.

BMW drivers seem to have the worst reputation.That's what it seems like to me.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...aggressive-drivers-prone-road-rage-wheel.html

Just thought I'd look this up as an after-thought.I know that report is 2013.

 

[Markymark]

But in the age old mantra of cyclists, what's that got to do with me? I'm not responsible for anyone else who drives a similar car to me.

 

[Drago]

But in the age old mantra of cyclists, what's that got to do with me? I'm not responsible for anyone else who drives a similar car to me.

Says the man who's berating "taxi drivers" in another thread for their road behaviour!

 

[Markymark]

Says the man who's berating "taxi drivers" in another thread for their road behaviour!

No I didn't. I was pointing out their hypocrisy. I was agreeing with you do keep up.

 

[Drago]

I don't drive a taxi, so not sure how I can be hypocritical about them?

 

[Markymark]

I don't drive a taxi, so not sure how I can be hypocritical about them?

No. Those that say that cyclists aren't responsible for each other then in the next sentence berate anyone who drives a taxi or 4x4

 

[Markymark]

Aparrently, if you drive really nicely this will rub off on other Audi/BWM drivers who will follow suit. After some period of time, everyone else will forget they used to hate you. Something like that, maybe.

Not at all. But I drive a 4x4 and a fast convertible. Care to make any assertions about how I drive based on nothing other than group responsibility from other drivers of similar cars?

 

[Drago]

I've never berated taxi's or fourbies, and never suggest that one cyclist is responsible for the behaviour of another.

 

[rugby bloke]

Does it go off road though, you know, like up curbs ?

At a push - has been used to rescue injured players from muddy corners of rugby pitches ... plus comes in handy when we head to the Aps in the snow. Mainly used for its 7 seats though I have to admit.