Froome and Wiggins TUEs

[jowwy]

They didn't have their data released by the Fancy Bears

Who didn't??

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

A serious lack of hand signals from SirDave's PR bods:
https://www.teamsky.com/article/team-sky-response-to-comments-by-uci-president-david-lappartient

 

[Adam4868]

I think Fancy bears have released things in the past. Cancellara springs to mind,I maybe wrong though.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

I think Fancy bears have released things in the past. Cancellara springs to mind,I maybe wrong though.

Prisoner of the People's Republic of Judea?

 

[Adam4868]

You could be right. I know Laura Trott's TUE for salbutamol was released, which surprised no one at all. Mo Farah was another. I'll have a search.

Edit... Yup, Cancellara too

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cancellara-cummings-fuglsang-featured-in-latest-fancy-bears-leak/

 

[themosquitoking]

A serious lack of hand signals from SirDave's PR bods:
https://www.teamsky.com/article/team-sky-response-to-comments-by-uci-president-david-lappartient

Didn't SKY lose most of the evidence that was asked for?

 

[smutchin]

Maybe not, but should we sent a precedent that teams who have been hacked have to answer questions, those who are not hacked are free to abuse TUEs?

The reason the DCMS investigated this matter is because of Sky's links to the publicly funded British Cycling. The significant question for them is whether or not public money was misused. Their findings have no legal weight within the sport but may affect future funding of the sport in the UK. A cynic might wonder if they were predisposed to find evidence of wrongdoing in order to justify spending cuts.

It's really up to the UCI and/or WADA to investigate the matter of TUE abuse properly, and to investigate all teams. And then take action if necessary.

 

[Bollo]

I've just seen the interview with Lappartient rather than just reading bits and bobs. I can't help but feel his new definition of 'cheating' will come back to haunt him. Doing a bit of reducto ad absurdum, you could argue that food falls into his definition of unacceptable as it improves a rider's performance relative to not having food.

Members of the MPCC you cynic. Well they were while it suited them....

Moi? D’ya know, I’d completely forgotten about the MPCC. They do those blue rubber wrist-band thingies, right?

 

[Milkfloat]

Moi? D’ya know, I’d completely forgotten about the MPCC. They do those blue rubber wrist-band thingies, right?

These ones?

 

[mjr]

Their findings have no legal weight within the sport but may affect future funding of the sport in the UK. A cynic might wonder if they were predisposed to find evidence of wrongdoing in order to justify spending cuts.

That's an interesting idea. I was wondering if they were after even more power to appoint directors, viewing UK Sport's new power to be involved in the appointment process (part of the Code for Sports Governance) as insufficient.

 

[jowwy]

It's really up to the UCI and/or WADA to investigate the matter of TUE abuse properly, and to investigate all teams. And then take action if necessary.

even though UKAD have done that and found no wrong doing?? in team sky that is

 

[smutchin]

That's an interesting idea. I was wondering if they were after even more power to appoint directors, viewing UK Sport's new power to be involved in the appointment process (part of the Code for Sports Governance) as insufficient.

I doubt they have the appetite to get involved at that level, tbh.

It's convenient when one of their mates gets a job as boss of an international sporting body though - the DCMS committee went very easy on Coe when they interviewed him.

 

[smutchin]

even though UKAD have done that and found no wrong doing?? in team sky that is

UKAD's investigation was into allegations that Wiggo used triamcinolone in competition, at the 2011 Dauphiné (the contents of the mysterious jiffy bag).

They have not investigated his TUE for use of triamcinolone out of competition and whether or not it was medically justified.

 

[jowwy]

UKAD's investigation was into allegations that Wiggo used triamcinolone in competition, at the 2012 Dauphiné (the contents of the mysterious jiffy bag).

They have not investigated his TUE for use of triamcinolone out of competition and whether or not it was medically justified.

pretty sure they investigated a lot more than just the jiffy bag and why would you investigate a TUE?

 

[smutchin]

pretty sure they investigated a lot more than just the jiffy bag

There was a separate investigation looking into JTL's claims that Tramadol was being handed out like sweets at the 2012 World Championships but I can't remember if that came to anything.

why would you investigate a TUE?

If a TUE has been obtained under false pretences, that is a clear anti-doping violation.