Froome and Wiggins TUEs
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SheilaH
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Thank you for that - I've given it a listen (with the exception of the last 4 minutes, which I'll listen to a bit later) and it is very good. My own opinion is that Sky have absolutely (ab)used TUE's as one of their methods of "marginal" gains. So, that leaves Sky's reputation pretty much in tatters, but they probably don't care.
Listening to the podcast though, I didn't like Jeremy Whittle. You could almost hear the glee in his voice and it felt to me like he may be settling a personal vendetta here. That's not to diminish what's happened, but Whittle seemed to want this to be on a par with Puerto or Cofidis, and it isn't.
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Here's a link highlighting the "tactical use" of TUEs and "recovery":
http://data.parliament.uk/writtenev...combatting-doping-in-sport/written/69004.html
Edit - and a BBC report from today, with Shane Sutton confirming the above:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/42033692
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Thank you. Wow. What a f*****g mess.
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Ha! We must have spotted that at the same time!!
It will be interesting to see how many of the facts can be verified in the whistleblower note. I don’t know and will wait for more info. IMV, I’m sure that TUEs do get used tactically to get a rider back up to 100% by most teams. Using them to get beyond that crosses the line for me. I watched the evidence live and didn’t strike me that Cope was “an unwitting porn” ( sic), although he was clearly desperate to keep his job.
Also interesting to see the whistleblower highlight the link between Fabio Bartolucci and Nicole Cooke. Hmmm
Also interesting to see the whistleblower highlight the link between Fabio Bartolucci and Nicole Cooke. Hmmm
SheilaH
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Millar "A little bit of me died to be honest with you. I thought you guys were different."
Millar knows they weren't different. The ZTP was horsesh1t. Sutton is a well known massive doper.
roadrash
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he was only diagnosed with it in 2009, who knows how long he had it before it was diagnosed.
as far as wiggins and froome are concerned ,I am prepared to accept that they acted within the rules, but, I think both , and everyone else at sky have pushed tue,s to the absolute limit,but as stated the tue,s were sanctioned, therefore legal, morally however is a different thing. I don't think for one minute sky are the only ones doing it.
and to play devils advocate ... what did you say mr wiggins ..you have terrible hay fever , tough sh!t, its not a good idea to race through france at the height of summer then.....good bye,.... shut the door on your way out,... same goes for everybody.
400bhp
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Illegal if he faked illness.
Adam4868
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Who faked illness ? Or is this just speculation.
