Frightening truck "safety video"...

[MontyVeda]

I am not quite sure that I see how cyclists staying out of the way of lorries equates to us all being responsible for each other.

what about educating people to be aware of the potential dangers when in the vicinity of lorries and educating lorry drivers to be aware of the hazards in their 'blind' spot?

 

[User16625]

According to an expert the BBC found, a lorry can't even be expected to see in the direction it is actually driving.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33622318

Jesus Christ!! I would have decked that prick given half a chance. Blind spot or not that move looked ridiculous at best, deliberate at worst.

 

[jefmcg]

Jesus Christ!! I would have decked that prick given half a chance. Blind spot or not that move looked ridiculous at best, deliberate at worst.

Totally agree. It's horrifying, Can't even watch with sound, as his screams are haunting.

Thread about it at the time is https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/hgv-driver-fails-to-spot-approaching-motorcyclist.184203/

 

[mjr]

Regardless of who presents the risk, awareness of the risk that blind spots pose is not a bad thing to promote.

Whether it's a bad thing depends on how you promote it. The legend of cyclists being killed because they dare to overtake lorries is a bad thing to promote. Asking why these dangerous designs are still allowed is a good thing.

 

[MontyVeda]

Whether it's a bad thing depends on how you promote it. The legend of cyclists being killed because they dare to overtake lorries is a bad thing to promote. Asking why these dangerous designs are still allowed is a good thing.

it's not just one or the other though... some road users present danger, some put themselves in danger. Let's just highlight 'the dangers'.

 

[mjr]

it's not just one or the other though... some road users present danger, some put themselves in danger. Let's just highlight 'the dangers'.

There's that legend again. Of course those mostly at fault would prefer it if left that legend undebunked and just highlighted "the dangers" in a meek neutral manner. It's time to say no to those bullies...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGIY5Vyj4YM

 

[MontyVeda]

you seem to have a problem with the statement that some road users put themselves in danger... is this not a fact, or just a fact you want swept under the carpet?

 

[mjr]

The problem is with giving that fact undue prominence in order to suggest that all blessed lorry drivers are not in any way to blame for left-hooking, for mowing down from behind and all the other real-world ways lorries have been used to kill other road users.

Much like using a trolling avatar that suggests it's only the cyclists who should be careful and shouldn't expect drivers to have functioning eyesight.

 

[Brandane]

The problem is with giving that fact undue prominence in order to suggest that all blessed lorry drivers are not in any way to blame for left-hooking, for mowing down from behind and all the other real-world ways lorries have been used to kill other road users.

Much like using a trolling avatar that suggests it's only the cyclists who should be careful and shouldn't expect drivers to have functioning eyesight.

The key word is "some". Deny that all you like, but it is still a fact.
The "trolling avatar" is actually sound advice - to all road users. Especially now that the text has been changed from the BS about being in the blind spot!

 

[MontyVeda]

The problem is with giving that fact undue prominence in order to suggest that all blessed lorry drivers are not in any way to blame for left-hooking, for mowing down from behind and all the other real-world ways lorries have been used to kill other road users.

Much like using a trolling avatar that suggests it's only the cyclists who should be careful and shouldn't expect drivers to have functioning eyesight.

You're the one giving it undue prominence...

...some road users present danger, some put themselves in danger...

...that's your bold in my quote. Speaks volumes doesn't it?