Frightening truck "safety video"...

[Strathlubnaig]

[QUOTE 4199992, member: 9609"]So it has little to do with visibility or near side mirrors and has everything to do with who is behind the wheel. most times I read a news article of a poor cyclist being killed it is tipper / waste-away truck, the culture in this part of the industry and how these drivers are paid is the key to better safety and little to do with more / bigger mirrors or electronic sensors.[/QUOTE]
yesterday...
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rnjEn63uD0

 

[mr_cellophane]

I've never driven an artic, but in the original video from the position of the cab and wheels, wouldn't the rear wheels go well over the kerb ?

 

[Brandane]

yesterday...
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rnjEn63uD0

I don't see much of a problem here. The lorry driver passed the cyclist on a clear stretch of road, and it wasn't a particularly close pass. He then comes to a right hand bend, at which point he becomes aware of a car coming towards him on a narrow bridge; so he stops and waits for the car to clear the bridge before moving off. If anyone in that clip was lacking in patience, it was the cyclist IMHO.. He was clearly not happy at being held up. If you can't handle traffic, don't ride on public roads.

 

[steveindenmark]

If he straightened the lorry up he would see them. It is so misleading.

 

[steveindenmark]

I've never driven an artic, but in the original video from the position of the cab and wheels, wouldn't the rear wheels go well over the kerb ?

If he started the turn there 2/3 of his trailer would go over the kerb. Thats why this is a load of nonesense.

 

[Brandane]

If he straightened the lorry up he would see them. It is so misleading.

*cough!* Post 31; top of page 3 .

 

[steveindenmark]

*cough!* Post 31; top of page 3 .

I didnt see the point in wading through all the posts when it was rubbish from the outset

 

[MontyVeda]

If he straightened the lorry up he would see them. It is so misleading.

isn't the point of the image/video (cab beginning to turn) to demonstrate that when an artic is turning, the nearside mirrors give the driver a great view of the side of the trailer... and thus suggesting that *if* an artic is doing a left turn, it's not wise to cycle/drive up its near side? If the lorry was straight it'd go straight on... seems straightforward enough to me (pun intended).

 

[steveindenmark]

I can see your point

But he has to drive up to the point he turns at which time he would pass the cyclists.

If he is stopped and the cyclists come up the inside he will see them through the mirrors if they adjusted correctly. I cannot think of an occasion where you would stop with enough left lock on that you cannot see what is coming up the Inside.

 

[summerdays]

I can see your point

But he has to drive up to the point he turns at which time he would pass the cyclists.

If he is stopped and the cyclists come up the inside he will see them through the mirrors if they adjusted correctly. I cannot think of an occasion where you would stop with enough left lock on that you cannot see what is coming up the Inside.

For me it doesn't matter whether he would stop like that or not, the point they are trying to get across is that it isn't a safe place to put yourself, don't go there. It needs to be said! Equally the opposite needs to be said to lorry drivers, don't put a cyclist in that position.

 

[jefmcg]

For me it doesn't matter whether he would stop like that or not, the point they are trying to get across is that it isn't a safe place to put yourself, don't go there. It needs to be said! Equally the opposite needs to be said to lorry drivers, don't put a cyclist in that position.

You know what that video says to me? that these vehicles should not be on the road - at least in the configuration shown in this video.

A number of years ago, my friend was nearly crushed by one of these as she was in his blind sport, and she was driving a 5 door red hatch back.

 

[MontyVeda]

You know what that video says to me? that these vehicles should not be on the road - at least in the configuration shown in this video.

A number of years ago, my friend was nearly crushed by one of these as she was in his blind sport, and she was driving a 5 door red hatch back.

i recall a public information film in the 70s warning of the very same danger to cars. Regardless of who presents the risk, awareness of the risk that blind spots pose is not a bad thing to promote.

 

[jefmcg]

According to an expert the BBC found, a lorry can't even be expected to see in the direction it is actually driving.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33622318

 

[MontyVeda]

According to an expert the BBC found, a lorry can't even be expected to see in the direction it is actually driving.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33622318

again, the problem with blind spots is they're 'blind'...

Best be aware of them until cab design improves.

 

[steveindenmark]

For me it doesn't matter whether he would stop like that or not, the point they are trying to get across is that it isn't a safe place to put yourself, don't go there. It needs to be said! Equally the opposite needs to be said to lorry drivers, don't put a cyclist in that position.

I think you are totally correct.

Everyone needs to be educated that is a mutual beneficial thing, we are all responsible for each other. If you watch some of the Youtube clips of bikes going down the sides of trucks it is frightening.

I would rather wait 30 seconds and let the truck get out of the way.

But there are those cyclists who will say "Why should I?"

I Guess there is no answer to that.

I liked the public information films and 40 years later I still remember a lot of them. They should start them again.