Freddie the seal attacked by savage dog

[Accy cyclist]

@Accy cyclist you'd have to be very sure of yourself with that, what happens when Mr knobby takes it off you?

Again,it's a fine line between use it or not use it. I think that if someone is determined to attack you,they will use whatever means to do it. So even without them taking the bat off me and using it on me,they'd still assault me. I hope the 'You f..k..g want some'would be enough and they'd decide to back down. If not then it's plan B. Anyway,the bat is more for cracking aggressive dog rather than human skulls. Dogs shouldn't be able to disarm me.

 

[fossyant]

I usually carry a tennis ball in his buggy,so if i get stopped by the plod i could say 'we're off up to the park officer,to play bat and ball'

I think you'd get that excuse by any officer whilst pushing a dog in a trolly. If he can't walk there he ain't going to be chasing a ball. Just be careful, you could end up in trouble.

 

[Accy cyclist]

I think you'd get that excuse by any officer whilst pushing a dog in a trolly. If he can't walk there he ain't going to be chasing a ball. Just be careful, you could end up in trouble.

Ah,so maybe it wouldn't be wise to knock a 6 inch nail through the end then,like i was gonna do?🤔

 

[fossyant]

Ah,so maybe it wouldn't be wise to knock a 6 inch nail through the end then,like i was gonna do?🤔

And wrap barbed wire round it, and call it 'Lucile'.


(Walking Dead if you've not seen it - name of a baseball bat one of the baddies has).

 

[Pale Rider]

She supposed to be a highly rated, high ranking lawyer herself. Says a lot her her confidence in her own good judgement if she's engaged another lawyers to speak on her behalf.

Lawyers have a saying: "Any lawyer who defends himself has a fool for a client."

Meaning that to defend someone requires rational, level headed, tactically astute thinking - something you are unlikely achieve if you are personally involved in a case.

Another point is this lass is commercial lawyer, what she knows about the criminal law could be written on the back of a postage stamp.

Wisely, she recognised both of those limitations and engaged someone who, presumably, does know what they are doing.

This being the internet, lots of people will sneer at her because she's loaded, and suggest she has escaped prosecution due to that wealth.

However, the only relevant question is: "A dog running free attacked a seal, has the owner committed a criminal offence?"

The Met and RSPCA decided the answer is 'no'.

For what it's worth, I can't see what offence she committed.

The dog is a legal breed and seals have no protection as a species in these circumstances.

 

[Accy cyclist]

More an annoying than a vicious dog,but still bad. This afternoon i was sat on a bench in the park,minding my own business when unfortunately a friend spotted me and came over. I say unfortunately as he has a very annoying and stupid dog. It's a white fluff ball type (Bichon Frise i think) that likes to jump up at you and the owner makes it worse by having it on one of those extendable leads. As we were talking i was busy trying to keep the idiot on 4 legs away from me. I had shorts on,so my shins were unprotected from the idiot's claws. Unfortunately the idiot dog managed to jump up,scratching my leg. I let that go,even when the owner didn't apologise. Then it did it again. This time i had to say something. "Will you please keep him away as i find it hard to push him away due to my lack of depth and width perception. The owner knows i have a sight problem,by the way. His reply was "Oh,what's the matter,you have a dog and i don't complain". "Yes,but my dog just sits there and doesn't jump up" i replied. He then mumbled something about me 'being soft' I let that go and was just happy to see him and his stupid dog go away! I do not want dogs jumping up at me and no way would i let my dog do that,even though he's not the type.

 

[HMS_Dave]

More an annoying than a vicious dog,but still bad. This afternoon i was sat on a bench in the park,minding my own business when unfortunately a friend spotted me and came over. I say unfortunately as he has a very annoying and stupid dog. It's a white fluff ball type (Bichon Frise i think) that likes to jump up at you and the owner makes it worse by having it on one of those extendable leads. As we were talking i was busy trying to keep the idiot on 4 legs away from me. I had shorts on,so my shins were unprotected from the idiot's claws. Unfortunately the idiot dog managed to jump up,scratching my leg. I let that go,even when the owner didn't apologise. Then it did it again. This time i had to say something. "Will you please keep him away as i find it hard to push him away due to my lack of depth and width perception. The owner knows i have a sight problem,by the way. His reply was "Oh,what's the matter,you have a dog and i don't complain". "Yes,but my dog just sits there and doesn't jump up" i replied. He then mumbled something about me 'being soft' I let that go and was just happy to see him and his stupid dog go away! I do not want dogs jumping up at me and no way would i let my dog do that,even though he's not the type.

I used to go out drinking with my mates some years ago. We clearly liked a pint. I didn't decide to pour my pint over their head because we all like beer...

At the end of the day you could get a rather nasty infection from dog scratches, it's poor form by your friend...

 

[Accy cyclist]

At the end of the day you could get a rather nasty infection from dog scratches, it's poor form by your friend...

That's how i see it. Luckily,i had my small bottle of anti-bac gel with me. I rubbed some onto the scratch. It stung a bit too!

 

[Accy cyclist]

I used to go out drinking with my mates some years ago. We clearly liked a pint. I didn't decide to pour my pint over their head because we all like beer...

At the end of the day you could get a rather nasty infection from dog scratches, it's poor form by your friend...

I'm sat here thinking about that bloody dog. I keep hearing the click of the owner's extension lead,as he gave it more length to encroach. He's always let it get soooo close,then hauls it back,sometimes after it's put its mucky paws on me. He must've seen that i was dressed well,as usual,so why not keep the thing away eh?! The dog is a hyperactive menace. Although i have a dog myself i'm not a 'dog lover' as such. There's a bit of tension going on in the local park at the moment between dog owners and those who feel intimidated by them. I'm kind of middle ground. The 'intimidated' want a dogs only allowed on a lead rule. Yes,that's ok,but these extension leads mean that dogs aren't really under control.

 

[HMS_Dave]

I'm sat here thinking about that bloody dog. I keep hearing the click of the owner's extension lead,as he gave it more length to encroach. He's always let it get soooo close,then hauls it back,sometimes after it's put its mucky paws on me. He must've seen that i was dressed well,as usual,so why not keep the thing away eh?! The dog is a hyperactive menace. Although i have a dog myself i'm not a 'dog lover' as such. There's a bit of tension going on in the local park at the moment between dog owners and those who feel intimidated by them. I'm kind of middle ground. The 'intimidated' want a dogs only allowed on a lead rule. Yes,that's ok,but these extension leads mean that dogs aren't really under control.

The extension leads make it hard to train dogs as well. A number of years ago i almost mowed down a scottie dog in my car that was on a path, then suddenly darted out into the road, i slammed the anchors on and stopped in time. That was on an extendable lead... Professional dog trainers don't recommend them either. Here's why:

https://unleashedpawtential.co.uk/why-dog-trainers-never-recommend-retractable-leashes-flexi-leads/

I don't think they are under control on those leads. Maybe confined to an area but in that area they aren't under control.

I do love dogs. Ive always let them roam freely around my house and garden. It requires extra vacuuming sure but they love that comfort. Dogs roaming uncontrolled around fields and parks no. It isn't worth it from a legal stand point and there are moral arguments for it too. It frustrates me that like your friend, they get the hump when you tell them to move their dogs away. They don't own that field or park!

 

[Pale Rider]

An 85-year-old woman is added to the canine kill list.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-56624119

 

[Arrowfoot]

And in her own home.

 

[Pale Rider]

No doubt in the court case we will hear that 'Tyson and Fury' were lovely natured dogs who were good with children.

 

[DRM]

The extension leads make it hard to train dogs as well. A number of years ago i almost mowed down a scottie dog in my car that was on a path, then suddenly darted out into the road, i slammed the anchors on and stopped in time. That was on an extendable lead... Professional dog trainers don't recommend them either. Here's why:

https://unleashedpawtential.co.uk/why-dog-trainers-never-recommend-retractable-leashes-flexi-leads/

I don't think they are under control on those leads. Maybe confined to an area but in that area they aren't under control.

I do love dogs. Ive always let them roam freely around my house and garden. It requires extra vacuuming sure but they love that comfort. Dogs roaming uncontrolled around fields and parks no. It isn't worth it from a legal stand point and there are moral arguments for it too. It frustrates me that like your friend, they get the hump when you tell them to move their dogs away. They don't own that field or park!

I agree, I think those extending leads are only suitable for sit and stay training, so the mutt can’t do a runner while it’s learning what you want it to do, I don’t get why some dog owners think it’s ok for their dog to pester other people, we had a dog 20 odd years ago, we loved her and she was a real part of the family, however we never expected anyone else to feel the same way about our dog, and didn’t allow her to go pestering strangers.

 

[newfhouse]

I’ll bite. I use an extending lead sometimes for one of my dogs.

He’s a young Lurcher, and although he has generally good recall, if he sees something small and furry his prey drive is stronger than his training, and probably always will be. There are parts of our regular woodland walk that are teeming with small mammals - squirrels, rabbits and so on. Rather than walk him close on a short lead I give him a lot more freedom to stop and sniff by using an extending lead. He is very scent oriented so it allows him a much more sensory-enriched walk while still preventing wildlife destruction.

I could use a long static line, but that takes two hands to give and take slack, which is hard to do if for whatever reason I have my other dog on a lead too. Once we’re back to the road section of our route both dogs are put on short leads and walk to heel

For me, the lead type is not the issue. What matters is the situational awareness and attentiveness of the dog handler.