Frame painting

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si_c

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Honestly, I'd just get it powder coated. I got a quote from Birkenhead paints for a bike a little while ago, £50 including them sand blasting the existing paint off, and then powder coating it, any colour I wanted. For that sort of money, by the time you've paid for the paint remover, then the paint itself, and done it, you'll have paid not much less than getting it done properly, and it probably won't look quite so good.
 
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steve50

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West Yorkshire
I agree with that ^^^^^^ doesn't get much cheaper and in a colour to suit you.
 

davidphilips

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Onabike
Have you tried Nitromors recently, might as well use milk.

not as good as it was years ago but best applied on a really hot day works better in the warmth and only use in a well vented area with goggles on and a bucket of water near by in case of accidents, best of all use a small sanding machine this takes of most of the paint in very little time plus less mess and a lot safer than nitromors, only use the nitromors in small bits that cannot be done by the sander if really nessary
 

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Honestly, I'd just get it powder coated. I got a quote from Birkenhead paints for a bike a little while ago, £50 including them sand blasting the existing paint off, and then powder coating it, any colour I wanted. For that sort of money, by the time you've paid for the paint remover, then the paint itself, and done it, you'll have paid not much less than getting it done properly, and it probably won't look quite so good.

I agree with that ^^^^^^ doesn't get much cheaper and in a colour to suit you.
I appreciate what your saying. If my Quinn's bike needed painting I wouldn't dream of messing it up in the garden with rattle cans!
I'm trying to create something that I've had in mind for a while. It's not costing anything because I have all I need in me shed!
 
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Powder coat it. Not worth the time and cost in rattle cans.
Aaaaarrrrgggghhhh!!!! I don't wanna rattle can it! I've no illusions that I could ever achieve a decent finish, if I wanted a pristine shiny frame I would get it powder coated!
I've gone all arty farty in my old age and I want a bare / distressed metal finish but with rust protection.
Initially was going to clear coat bare frame but apparently that doesn't offer protection. I wondered if anyone else had tried similar or achieved a finish I liked and could pass on any tips.
 
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What I had in each case was a frame with reasonably intact but shabby paint. I applied layers of different green acrylic artists' paints, dark, mid, and light using a sponge. The aim being to duplicate Verdigris copper. I then sealed it with a rattle can clear coat.
They are both a bit rough, and one is more unsuccessful than the other but I like them.
They look great. Saddles, grips etc finish the look nicely.
I'm thinking of red oxide primer, thin layers of various metallic paint, sanded to a distressed finish then clear coat to seal.
 
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Here we go. Gonna take a while, unless I pack in work and send the kids to an orphanage, but hey ho...
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screenman

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Aaaaarrrrgggghhhh!!!! I don't wanna rattle can it! I've no illusions that I could ever achieve a decent finish, if I wanted a pristine shiny frame I would get it powder coated!
I've gone all arty farty in my old age and I want a bare / distressed metal finish but with rust protection.
Initially was going to clear coat bare frame but apparently that doesn't offer protection. I wondered if anyone else had tried similar or achieved a finish I liked and could pass on any tips.

Where did you get the misinformation about laquer not protecting like paint would?
 
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Where did you get the misinformation about laquer not protecting like paint would?
Looked on various bike forums etc. My thoughts were that, providing the surface was rust and grease free, it would be ok. If you do a bit of googling the general opinion is that it's not the best plan.
I'm ok building the bikes up, but am no expert when it comes to paint, I only ever touch up scratches and stuff.
I'm more inclined to get frame rust free now, couple of coats of red oxide, then let my "artistic" side run wild!
Are you convinced that clear coating bare, well prepared frame, would protect it?
 

screenman

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Looked on various bike forums etc. My thoughts were that, providing the surface was rust and grease free, it would be ok. If you do a bit of googling the general opinion is that it's not the best plan.
I'm ok building the bikes up, but am no expert when it comes to paint, I only ever touch up scratches and stuff.
I'm more inclined to get frame rust free now, couple of coats of red oxide, then let my "artistic" side run wild!
Are you convinced that clear coating bare, well prepared frame, would protect it?

We paint a car with a water based paint that will wash off with water, until we laquer it. How long do you think say a polished alloy car wheel would last without laquer.
 
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We paint a car with a water based paint that will wash off with water, until we laquer it. How long do you think say a polished alloy car wheel would last without laquer.
As I said, I'm no expert, got a daft plan and making it up as i go along.
What product would you recommend?
Thanks for sharing knowledge, that's why I posted!
 
If you were to either use wire wool or a Scotchbrite pad to clean/ polish your frame to the finish you require, degrease it, but do not touch it with bare hands and then coat it with a clear lacquer it should be okay. You will need to make sure that you do it on a warm day otherwise moisture may get onto the frame before you lacquer it.
 
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