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scaryant

New Member
Whatever works for you mate - if I want to get a permanent six pack or join the US Navy I might even be bothered to go over to that hospital and have a nurse pinch my all over with skin calipers. LOL. TBH I think the majority of overweight people are not interested in what BF% they are, they just want to drop an inch (or more) off their waist or lose the gut. Also the majority of overweight people don't like taking their clothes off to have some skinny person pinch their fat - fine for atheletes or people wanting to meet goals like moving from 20% to 15% BF but with that much BF you don't look fat.
 

scaryant

New Member
I dunno what you're on about... some crazy talk. Take your pills.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
scaryant said:
I dunno what you're on about... some crazy talk. Take your pills.

It's the yeast in bakery products, combined with the sugars in High GI carbohydrates which form ethanol in your gut.
The ethanol ( and alcohol [ made from Barley ] et al ) increases the loss of L-Taurine in the body through the urinary system.

Google L-Taurine and find it is one of the most important amino acids.
When it is deficient, the body ages more rapidly due to inability to rebuild.
 

zacklaws

Guru
Location
Beverley
Whats with the "shopping or cleaning" bit, thats Woman's work, unless your refering to popping out to buying Cycling Weekly or cleaning the bike and thats different.

Think its time for me to duck.xx(xx(:smile:
 

skwerl

New Member
Location
London
jimboalee said:
It's the yeast in bakery products, combined with the sugars in High GI carbohydrates which form ethanol in your gut.
The ethanol ( and alcohol [ made from Barley ] et al ) increases the loss of L-Taurine in the body through the urinary system.

Google L-Taurine and find it is one of the most important amino acids.
When it is deficient, the body ages more rapidly due to inability to rebuild.

given that it's not an essential amino acid I find it hard to believe it's easy to become deficient. maybe if you drink a shoot-load of alcohol each day but alcohol from yeast/sugar in the gut? hmm...

Oh, and that RMR/BMR web-site is largely useless...may as well just cut calorie intake by 500/day.
 

skwerl

New Member
Location
London
scaryant said:
Interesting, how is it "largely" useless?

too many variants and too many assumed values. it can't be tailored to within a useful accuracy so you may as well just go for the 500 cals per day standard
 

Banjo

Fuelled with Jelly Babies
Location
South Wales
I started cycling daily about 6 months ago,3 miles each way to work and a 2 hour ride 3 or 4 times per week.

No special diet just avoiding fat and junk but not obsessive about it.I usually have about 2 bottles of wine and 2 or 3 beers each week.

Started at 16 Stone now 13 stone 6 lb.

Im no expert but think if you just increase your output and slightly decrease your input and try to avoid fat and sugar you will lose weight. Im convinced that the "weight loss industry"deliberately make it sound complex to keep their clients attending unneccessary and costly classes and buying overpriced books etc.

Weight is dropping still but very slowly now.Would ideally like to lose another 1 stone but I dont care how long it takes.

Good luck to all the others out there trying to get lighter/fitter.
 

tordis

New Member
Location
London
Banjo said:
Im no expert but think if you just increase your output and slightly decrease your input and try to avoid fat and sugar you will lose weight. Im convinced that the "weight loss industry"deliberately make it sound complex to keep their clients attending unneccessary and costly classes and buying overpriced books etc.
My thoughts exactly. I always thought that if I stick to healthy food and don't overeat, plus have some exercise, I'll lose weight. And so far, it always worked :surrender:
 

akaAndrew

Senior Member
I read an interesting piece today that suggested exercise was of limited value in weight loss. Not that it's no use but not of as much use as people commonly think. And not that exercise is not of other use. Before you dismiss it out of hand, give it a read...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090806/hl_time/08599191485700

Also commented on here...

http://www.drbriffa.com/blog/2009/08/12/does-exercise-promote-weight-loss-no/

I am taken by a comment (from Chris) below the article which takes the evolutionary perspective into account.
 

MacB

Lover of things that come in 3's
akaAndrew said:
I read an interesting piece today that suggested exercise was of limited value in weight loss. Not that it's no use but not of as much use as people commonly think. And not that exercise is not of other use. Before you dismiss it out of hand, give it a read...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090806/hl_time/08599191485700

Also commented on here...

http://www.drbriffa.com/blog/2009/08/12/does-exercise-promote-weight-loss-no/

I am taken by a comment (from Chris) below the article which takes the evolutionary perspective into account.

interesting pieces and accurate, though citing increased appetite as being the big factor in stopping exercise being an effective weight loss tool. As someone once said 'no shoot Sherlock', it's another case of stating the bleeding obvious. Most people I've ever discussed weight loss with are perfectly aware that, for long term sustained gains, a lifestyle change is required. If you exercise so hard that you can't control your hunger, or become sedentary at other times, then you're going to fail in your aims. If you constantly eat as much as, or more than, you consume then you'll fail to lose weight.

Some folks can get as fit as they like but will never be skinny, or at least not and remain healthy. A generally active lifestyle will do more good rather than intensive training that risks injury. Trying to attain some 'Hollywood' style physical perfection will just send many to despair and probably back to comfort eating.

We've spent many years evolving efficient excess fuel storage. Recognise skinny folks for the throwbacks they are and pity them.
 

akaAndrew

Senior Member
MacBludgeon said:
citing increased appetite as being the big factor in stopping exercise being an effective weight loss tool. As someone once said 'no shoot Sherlock', it's another case of stating the bleeding obvious.

Well yes, and sometimes the obvious needs to be stated. You read posts on this very forum asking 'which after ride meal for weight loss?' etc. Perhaps some think exercise burns way more calories than it actually does.

The articles only mentioned increased hunger as a part of it though. It wasn't the sole thrust. They also mention that, for those looking to loose weight, diet is where you look first. Lifestyle changes too, look to being generally active - as you mention.

We've spent many years evolving efficient excess fuel storage.

This is the kind of argument that I find interesting... near compelling in fact. In the subsistence environment that we lived in, any creature that expended huge amounts of energy during intense exercise (fleeing, for instance) would have to restock that energy. This could prove difficult. Any creature that burned less energy would be at a distinct advantage. Evolution would suggest that such a creature would be the long term survivor.

We no longer live in that kind of environment, so perhaps the biggest factor in our weight gain is the ease of access to refueling... i.e. over indulgence.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
There's a million and one weight loss books, and there's a million and two arguments.

There are theories and hypothesis to prove and disprove any diet published in a book. Some of it has substance, some of it is conjecture, ( like mine ).
That's how authors with letters after their names ( or even telly stars ) earn loads of money describing their own particular diet plan.

The answer is simple as many posters have said.

Eat less, work more.
 
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