EV Owners Thread

[CXRAndy]

Questions for you people with EVs:

1) Anyone got vehicle to grid (V2G) capability? Seems to me this is critical for societal benefit for EVs and also likely very lucrative, but as far as I can ascertain, only available as part of a small trial to date?

2) Any complications with a solar installation I should be aware of? Don't have solar now, but would probably get it if we buy an EV.

I've got a Nissan Leaf, which has VTG or VTH. Nissan USA, announced just last month that they were partnering up with a company to offer VTG.

Several European companies have had tiny pilot schemes but failed to bring it to market -yet.

I await, but not for long, because I will just install a dedicated battery backup

 

[CXRAndy]

I didn't think lights and seat heaters affected the battery range.

It doesn't do much maybe 10-15 mile range loss from full charge. Varies from car to car. Model 3/Y have a very clever heat scavenging system from the heat energy from the battery and motors, reducing actual electric demand

 

[cougie uk]

I didn't think lights and seat heaters affected the battery range.

Yes my range drops by 3 miles or so when I turn on the heater. Don't know about tye lights - I've not tried turning them off.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

I've got a Nissan Leaf, which has VTG or VTH. Nissan USA, announced just last month that they were partnering up with a company to offer VTG.

Several European companies have had tiny pilot schemes but failed to bring it to market -yet.

I await, but not for long, because I will just install a dedicated battery backup

So, nothing available yet?

Seems absolutely crazy given the amount of solar going in, the lack of storage and the overall energy crisis.

Would pay for itself in about a week!

(Seriously, if you charged up say 30kwhr of battery each day at low demand price and discharged at high demand price, what would you get back? Maybe £5-10 a day or something??)

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Sooner than I expected, but was inevitable.

 

[icowden]

It doesn't do much maybe 10-15 mile range loss from full charge. Varies from car to car. Model 3/Y have a very clever heat scavenging system from the heat energy from the battery and motors, reducing actual electric demand

I was thinking also of rain / coldness / increased friction - just that general thing whereby EVs don't go quite as far on cold horrible days as compared with nice sunny days.

Overall I feel that this car is a MASSIVE step up from the old Renault Scenic.

 

[Beebo]

Sooner than I expected, but was inevitable.

Yes. And company car tax going on electric vehicles is up too.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Sooner than I expected, but was inevitable.

Yes. And company car tax going on electric vehicles is up too.

Makes sense - a huge revenue hole otherwise.

 

[figbat]

Will the current low emission ICEs also be subject to non-zero VED too?

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Will the current low emission ICEs also be subject to non-zero VED too?

Hopefully

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Hopefully

FYI:

Also being discussed in the 'Are we being forced to go electric?' thread.

 

[Beebo]

My petrol citreon C1 is tax exempt.
I guess that will be coming to an end too. ☹️

 

[cougie uk]

My petrol citreon C1 is tax exempt.
I guess that will be coming to an end too. ☹️

Surely it must if the EV exemption is coming to an end ?

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Surely it must if the EV exemption is coming to an end ?

It should I know people who live in remote areas will complain but it really ought to be based on mileage, initially my thought process was just remove the VED on cars & add it to the price of fuel, if you use a lot of fuel you pay a lot of VED/Tax, if you do very little you pay very little.

But now with the onset of EV this doesn't work as how can you work out where the electricity comes from, logically if it comes from the owners own PV panels there should not be any extra charge, if it comes from the normal home supply I suppose you could add a levy for each EV at the property, but then again whose to say that particular electron didn't go to the oven & not the car battery, it gets very muddled.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

It should I know people who live in remote areas will complain but it really ought to be based on mileage, initially my thought process was just remove the VED on cars & add it to the price of fuel, if you use a lot of fuel you pay a lot of VED/Tax, if you do very little you pay very little.

But now with the onset of EV this doesn't work as how can you work out where the electricity comes from, logically if it comes from the owners own PV panels there should not be any extra charge, if it comes from the normal home supply I suppose you could add a levy for each EV at the property, but then again whose to say that particular electron didn't go to the oven & not the car battery, it gets very muddled.

Paying by mile is fraught with problems - who should pay more or less? The driver with an additional 3 occupants in a Mini or the solo driver in a full sized Range Rover?