ETB Bafang Motor Advice - New to E-MTB world

[lebanator]

I don't know whether you are 25 or 55 years of age but if you have exercise goals why do you need e-assist?

Not sure how that is relevant at all....

 

[Mike Ayling]

Not sure how that is relevant at all....

Well if you are 55 e-assist is permissable, if you are 25 I would suggest that you just HTFU.

 

[lebanator]

Well if you are 55 e-assist is permissable, if you are 25 I would suggest that you just HTFU.

Well thank god I’m not 25, in my mid 40’s not disclosing my medical info either

 

[Dogtrousers]

Why don't you just get a dirt motor bike to ride on your family station Lebanator?

I don't know whether you are 25 or 55 years of age but if you have exercise goals why do you need e-assist?

Well if you are 55 e-assist is permissable, if you are 25 I would suggest that you just HTFU.

Jeez, give the OP a break. They came on here looking for technical info, not to justify their purchasing choices.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

I thought about it and my brother has one, but not my thing want to and defeats my exercise goals

But doesn;t having an electric motor doing more of the work just do the same as a petrol engine?
you get more exercise with the cutoff than without?

 

[Dogtrousers]

But doesn;t having an electric motor doing more of the work just do the same as a petrol engine?

No, because an e-bike is pedal assisted whereas a motorbike is just a motorbike.

And we have no idea what the OP's exercise goals are. And the point is pretty irrelevant because the OP doesn't want, and hasn't bought, a motorbike.

 

[classic33]

No, because an e-bike is pedal assisted whereas a motorbike is just a motorbike.

And we have no idea what the OP's exercise goals are. And the point is pretty irrelevant because the OP doesn't want, and hasn't bought, a motorbike.

But he is looking at increasing the speed, which under EU rules would make it legally a moped. Australian rules might be different on the speed.

Personally, I'd have bought one that fell outside the EPAC regulations because the build should be stronger. Better suited to the type of riding he's looking at doing, in the environment he's planning on doing it in. He might have a long walk home if a breakdown occurs.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

But he is looking at increasing the speed, which under EU rules would make it legally a moped. Australian rules might be different on the speed.

Personally, I'd have bought one that fell outside the EPAC regulations because the build should be stronger. Better suited to the type of riding he's looking at doing, in the environment he's planning on doing it in. He might have a long walk home if a breakdown occurs.

To be fair - whether or not it is a moped is irrelevant if he only uses it on private land

 

[CXRAndy]

All an ebike does is propel a rider along at a faster rate than without, especially on hills. It's a fallback solution for when a rider begins to fatigue.

My wife pretty much refused to ride any distance with me, because she would tire out quickly, she hated steep hills. Now she s happy to go on 20-40 mile rides, knowing that when she does begin to tire, she can up the assistance and carry on.

Isn't that a much more desirable outcome to getting someone who would likely not ride very much without electric assistance?

The OP wants a bit more assistance at a higher speeds. We don't know the size of the area he wants to cover. Being able to travel faster covers more ground

 

[classic33]

To be fair - whether or not it is a moped is irrelevant if he only uses it on private land

But a moped/motorbike would be built a bit stronger than a bike. Which should be better suited than increasing the power on an electrical assisted pedal cycle to match the terrain. My opinion only.

@CXRAndy, he's already said "around 20,000km of private farm land".

 

[CXRAndy]

But a moped/motorbike would be built a bit stronger than a bike. Which should be better suited than increasing the power on an electrical assisted pedal cycle to match the terrain. My opinion only.

@CXRAndy, he's already said "around 20,000km of private farm land".

Wow, that is a spread . Definitely needs more speed

 

[Mike Ayling]

But he is looking at increasing the speed, which under EU rules would make it legally a moped. Australian rules might be different on the speed.

Personally, I'd have bought one that fell outside the EPAC regulations because the build should be stronger. Better suited to the type of riding he's looking at doing, in the environment he's planning on doing it in. He might have a long walk home if a breakdown occurs.

Oz rules are the same, max assistance 25 km/h

 

[classic33]

Oz rules are the same, max assistance 25 km/h

Not quite, unless things have changed in recent years.
"Electric bicycles used solely for off-road purposes have no regulations. However, a PACP (Power Assisted Pedal Cycle) that exceeds 250W in power must be classified as a motorbike and registered accordingly."

"In Australia, manufacturers are allowed two options. One option is electric bikes are allowed to only have a throttle and no pedal-assist system. With this option, bikes are limited to a 200W output. The other option is to have a 250W bike with a pedal-assist system. If the pedal-assisted bike also has a throttle, the bike is not allowed to exceed 6 km/h by the throttle alone. With the pedal assist activated, speeds are topped out at 25 km/h."

 

[Mike Ayling]

Not quite, unless things have changed in recent years.
"Electric bicycles used solely for off-road purposes have no regulations. However, a PACP (Power Assisted Pedal Cycle) that exceeds 250W in power must be classified as a motorbike and registered accordingly."

"In Australia, manufacturers are allowed two options. One option is electric bikes are allowed to only have a throttle and no pedal-assist system. With this option, bikes are limited to a 200W output. The other option is to have a 250W bike with a pedal-assist system. If the pedal-assisted bike also has a throttle, the bike is not allowed to exceed 6 km/h by the throttle alone. With the pedal assist activated, speeds are topped out at 25 km/

To just clarify with the throttle option you still have to pedal!

 

[lebanator]

I’m sorry to have caused debate or topic on the issue everyone. Was just looking for all my options.