Energy bill increases

[mistyoptic]

Induction hobs are WAY more efficient than other electric hobs, to the point where there isn't much in it between an induction hob and a gas hob for cost. And they are also just as controllable in terms of immediate heat up and col down.

and easier to clean

 

[Mo1959]

Wonder if there would be much savings between using a normal cooker/oven and a good quality combination microwave?

 

[fossyant]

Wonder if there would be much savings between using a normal cooker/oven and a good quality combination microwave?

Probably quite a significant amount. Air fryers are much better for smaller amounts - it's basilly a mini fan oven. We're only using the oven if we can fill it. Big bonus for me is that I'm the poor bugger that has to clean the oven.

 

[fossyant]

PS my 'wealthy' sister and BIL are looking at a particular air fryer to cut costs - it's not like they don't have money, and there electric bill is a quarter of mine already, but they have a stupid massive electic arga type thing. Only issue, it's out of stock everywhere.

Were a power air fryer XL (round one) which is great.

 

[cyberknight]

mrs ck bought a presure cooker last week that you can do small joints in too, sure beats running the oven for hours on a sunday .
I keep banging on to the family to stop wasting electrickery and i have just turned down the boiler temps , mini ck 2 will be sarnies when she goes back to school so thats close to £45 a month saved .
I worry given the nature of my companies production being very high in energy consumption whether the cost of production can be met and how it bodes for future pay rises as even this year the ride we got doesnt even cover the cost of increases for electric so far .

 

[winjim]

With the pressure cooker, air fryer and microwave I can cook a Sunday roast without using the oven. If I'm roasting an additional veg like parsnips I might use the oven but otherwise it's chicken in the pressure cooker, roast spuds and yorkshires in the air fryer, veg in the microwave.

 

[numbnuts]

mrs ck bought a presure cooker last week that you can do small joints in too, sure beats running the oven for hours on a sunday .
I keep banging on to the family to stop wasting electrickery and i have just turned down the boiler temps , mini ck 2 will be sarnies when she goes back to school so thats close to £45 a month saved .
I worry given the nature of my companies production being very high in energy consumption whether the cost of production can be met and how it bodes for future pay rises as even this year the ride we got doesnt even cover the cost of increases for electric so far .

I have set my boiler temperature so I don't need any cold water for a shower
been doing this few a few years now.
What's the point in heating up water just to cool it down, crazy comes to mind

 

[chris-suffolk]

I have set my boiler temperature so I don't need any cold water for a shower
been doing this few a few years now.
What's the point in heating up water just to cool it down, crazy comes to mind

Maybe because the amount of hot water you have then goes further, and does several showers rather than just 1/2.

 

[numbnuts]

Maybe because the amount of hot water you have then goes further, and does several showers rather than just 1/2.

I live on my own and have a combi boiler

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Son is currently looking for a house I've advised to wait 6 months there will be loads of repossessions available

 

[presta]

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Who would have thought our standards could fall so quickly?

I've always thought that a pain in the wallet would be more effective at reducing CO2 emissions than campaigning.

Although these days many people have had their 'old fashioned' immersion tanks removed for direct water heating which is blooming expensive.

My house has never had a hot water tank since it was built in 1947, up until 2017 it's had multipoint water heaters, now it has a combi. Having been used to running the tap before the water runs hot, I was pretty relaxed about it when the plumber who put the combi in drew it to my attention, but there's a big difference between combis and multipoints. On a M/P there's only one thin copper heat exchanger, directly from gas flame to tap water, but combi has two: one from flame to heating water, then again from heating water to tap water. All in all, this means a M/P runs hot a lot quicker than a combi.

Induction hobs are WAY more efficient than other electric hobs

The US Department of Energy don't think so:
"Summarizing the results of several tests, DOE affirms that "induction units have an average efficiency of 72.2%, not significantly higher than the 69.9% efficiency of smooth—electric resistance units, or the 71.2% of electric coil units"."

I have set my boiler temperature so I don't need any cold water for a shower
been doing this few a few years now.
What's the point in heating up water just to cool it down, crazy comes to mind

Lets say you use 50L at 40C from a cold supply of 10C, that's 6.27MJ, but if you have 30L of hot at 50C that's still 6.27MJ, and when it's mixed it with 20L of cold it's also still 50L and 40C.

 

[Alex321]

The US Department of Energy don't think so:
"Summarizing the results of several tests, DOE affirms that "induction units have an average efficiency of 72.2%, not significantly higher than the 69.9% efficiency of smooth—electric resistance units, or the 71.2% of electric coil units"."

That depends on just what they mean by efficiency.

Reading the article, I'm not convinced that is actually a very effective way of measuring it for real life.

All I know is that the "rings" on my induction cooker are slightly lower power than on my previous ceramic hob one, but heat the food up far more quickly.

 

[numbnuts]

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I've always thought that a pain in the wallet would be more effective at reducing CO2 emissions than campaigning.

My house has never had a hot water tank since it was built in 1947, up until 2017 it's had multipoint water heaters, now it has a combi. Having been used to running the tap before the water runs hot, I was pretty relaxed about it when the plumber who put the combi in drew it to my attention, but there's a big difference between combis and multipoints. On a M/P there's only one thin copper heat exchanger, directly from gas flame to tap water, but combi has two: one from flame to heating water, then again from heating water to tap water. All in all, this means a M/P runs hot a lot quicker than a combi.

The US Department of Energy don't think so:
"Summarizing the results of several tests, DOE affirms that "induction units have an average efficiency of 72.2%, not significantly higher than the 69.9% efficiency of smooth—electric resistance units, or the 71.2% of electric coil units"."

Lets say you use 50L at 40C from a cold supply of 10C, that's 6.27MJ, but if you have 30L of hot at 50C that's still 6.27MJ, and when it's mixed it with 20L of cold it's also still 50L and 40C.

lowering the flow temperature on combi boilers can make a difference for some homes if the boiler temperature is already set high – and could theoretically cut household bills by between 6 per cent and 8 per cent.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

I know a watched kettle never boils, but watching the kettle boil & switching it off as soon as the water boils must be a good way of saving, ours typically continues to boil for at least 10-15 seconds before it switches off & at 3000W that's a fair whack.

 

[fossyant]

Hot Water tank will be reduced slightly in temperature - it's reasonable as it is, but slightly lower will be better - only I can wash pots in the hot water, so that may say it's too hot.

New fridge freezer is set at 3c for fridge (eco is 6c), buy eco for the freezer. Only because it's warm - I'll increse the fridge temp as outside cools. 3c drinks are lovely in summer. The small chest freezer is set in the middle for temperature, I'll reduce to a quarter.