Energy bill increases

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Food cooking is around 10% of total fuel use so you can only save 5% overall if you cut cooking by 50% Much better to halve heating costs. I remember ice inside the windows as a kid and having the days clothes inside the bed for 5mins to take the edge off....
You are right, it's just food costs are easier and cheaper for me to reduce!

The house seems to retain heat very well, theres at least a foot of insulation in the loft and I'm sat here in shorts only at a balmy 23.5c. I'll have to wait until winter for the cold months, but ATM I'm hopeful itll be a lot better thanmy old one which retained no heat easily at all.
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
So ive just worked out, that even with me only using 5kwh a day electric, thats still going to be around 90 bucks a month with the standard charge…..
 

Jenkins

Legendary Member
Location
Felixstowe
Even if I don't use any gas or electricity, I'm still paying £21.09 per month on the standing charges. For the electricity element (£12.28) this adds approximately 40% to my bill as a low energy user, while from about May to October the gas element (£8.81) is 100% of the bill as I only use gas for heating.
 

SpokeyDokey

68, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
Moderator
I may have missed any references to Economy 7 in previous posts but I can't recollect any.

We have Economy 7 from Scottish Power (not all suppliers provide overnight rates) and our laundry, dishwasher and hot water tank (immersion heater) for showers are all heated very cheaply overnight.

Although these days many people have had their 'old fashioned' immersion tanks removed for direct water heating which is blooming expensive.
 
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I may have missed any references to Economy 7 in previous posts but I can't recollect any.

We have Economy 7 from Scottish Power (not all suppliers provide overnight rates) and our laundry, dishwasher and hot water tank (immersion heater) for showers are all heated very cheaply overnight.

Although these days many people have had their 'old fashioned' immersion tanks removed for direct water heating which is blooming expensive.

The problem with Economy 7 & I don't know if it still is, that although the night rate was good, the day rate was more expensive than normal, which meant unless you were careful it could & did in our case work out more expensive.

But some of the more modern suppliers are again offering cheap overnight to charge EV's, I'm hoping once we have the smart meter installed we can get onto it to charge our battery up, at the same time we'll do the washing & the dishwasher
 

SpokeyDokey

68, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
Moderator
The problem with Economy 7 & I don't know if it still is, that although the night rate was good, the day rate was more expensive than normal, which meant unless you were careful it could & did in our case work out more expensive.

But some of the more modern suppliers are again offering cheap overnight to charge EV's, I'm hoping once we have the smart meter installed we can get onto it to charge our battery up, at the same time we'll do the washing & the dishwasher

Current rates 14.9p night and 32.5p daytime.
 

SpokeyDokey

68, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
Moderator
I’ve still got storage heaters and water on Economy 7 too. Honestly don’t mind it, although I might try and only put the hall heater on this winter and leave all internal doors open to let the heat get to the rest of the house the way things are going!

Yup, we think Economy 7 is really good.

Electricity is our second biggest fuel bill.

Usage for decent sized detached bungalow in Cumbria, current billing:

Electricity £750
Heating oil £1100
Coal (smokeless substitute) £550
Logs £200

Total £2600pa
 

chris-suffolk

Über Member
The problem with Economy 7 & I don't know if it still is, that although the night rate was good, the day rate was more expensive than normal, which meant unless you were careful it could & did in our case work out more expensive.

But some of the more modern suppliers are again offering cheap overnight to charge EV's, I'm hoping once we have the smart meter installed we can get onto it to charge our battery up, at the same time we'll do the washing & the dishwasher

Some suppliers will buy back the electricity you've stored in the EV batteries, at a premium, rate during peak rates. You can the use the car as an income source - assuming you can leave it on the drive.
 

oldwheels

Legendary Member
Location
Isle of Mull
I’ve still got storage heaters and water on Economy 7 too. Honestly don’t mind it, although I might try and only put the hall heater on this winter and leave all internal doors open to let the heat get to the rest of the house the way things are going!

I tried that for a while last winter but it did not work too well and heat did not get into the rest of my house so had to put on the living room one as well. When it got really cold I have a solid fuel stove which I used in addition and is good but a bit of a faff getting fuel into the house and it had to get cleared of ash every day. No idea what fuel for that will cost this year but it will certainly be up on last year.
 

Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
I do think people would drive better if the car displayed in pence per mile rather than the MPG or whatever.
It'd be interesting to see if the fuel price rises have reduced the average speeds on the motorways. We must have this data somewhere.

Oh - we do. Historically anyway.

2018 Avg speed 68 mph.
2019 69 mph.
2020 70 mph.


Just from using the motorway I'd be suprised if its that high nowadays.

I wouldn't. I was away in my camper van this weekend, which is limited to 65mph (speed limiter fitted when it was School minibus and not removed since conversion). At that speed, I was still being overtaken by far more vehicles than I was overtaking.
 
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