E-scooters to be allowed on public roads

[DCLane]

True, but the majority of Lime Bikers I see neither look nor indicate.

Son no. 2's university riders are sponsored by Lime this year. His new 'Lime-branded' kit's just arrived

 

[Drago]

True, but the majority of Lime Bikers I see neither look nor indicate.

Thats no better than indicating without looking.

One is either riding safely, or one is not. There is no middle ground.

Mind you Drago is ex-plod ,so predisposed against unsocial behaviour.

And after all these years ASB still grinds my gears. I have to really bite my tongue and rise above all but the very worst of it, else I may as well become a special and have at it properly...and that ain't happening any time soon!

 

[Dogtrousers]

Son no. 2's university riders are sponsored by Lime this year. His new 'Lime-branded' kit's just arrived

Are Lime also providing the bikes?

Not the most aero, or lightweight. Still, I suppose they'll have to remove the batteries to avoid accusations of cheating, so that might lighten them a bit. As they aren't diamond frame they may fall foul of the UCI rules.

And once they cross the finish line will they just get off, throw their bike to the ground and walk away, leaving it lying on the floor?

 

[Time Waster]

A cyclist on the pavement/footway isn't technically out to collide or cause harm. It might not be legal or socially acceptable but criminal violence it isn't.

Preparing your stance for a potential impact as a pedestrian or standing without moving isn't showing intent to cause harm or violence to a cyclist.

Doing the above then dropping your shoulder to take an impact that is expected to harm the cyclist is about harm or violence.

Imho the last one is beyond acceptable and ideal world would be subject to enforcement. Not anywhere near ideal world as there's a cyclist where they shouldn't be and a pedestrian out to cause harm / retribution should the cyclist impact him. Classic two wrongs scenario as well!

I think @Jody has put it all more clearly than I ever will.

 

[Jody]

I think @Jody has put it all more clearly than I ever will.

There's a first time for everything

 

[DCLane]

Are Lime also providing the bikes?

Not the most aero, or lightweight. Still, I suppose they'll have to remove the batteries to avoid accusations of cheating, so that might lighten them a bit. As they aren't diamond frame they may fall foul of the UCI rules.

And once they cross the finish line will they just get off, throw their bike to the ground and walk away, leaving it lying on the floor?

My understanding is that it's just names on the kit. I'm not sure what else they're offering as 'inducements'. It's on the front, rear and shoulders of their NoPinz skinsuits as 'modelled' by son no. 2 last night at Derby velodrome:

No equipment though: I don't believe Lime do track bikes

 

[Dogtrousers]

No equipment though: I don't believe Lime do track bikes

I can't begin to say how disappointing I find this

 

[Bristolian]

10mph on a pavement is not great on an escooter or cyclist or indeed runners. However quiet it is riding a bike or escooter on the pavement is wrong and potentially dangerous. You've just given another good example of bad behaviour by escooterists. You're proving my point nicely.

I agree. 10mph on a footpath is way too fast. My wife's mobility scooter has a switch which changes the maximum speed it will travel at - 8mph on the road (too slow to be safe, in my opinion) or 4mph on the pavement, which can be too fast as most pedestrians barely walk at 2mph.

Around the estate where we live there are a large number of disabled people and many of those have mobility scooters. There is a growing tendency for those to be illegal too as they can travel at more than 8mph. The guy that lives opposite me is 70 years old and has a three wheeled one that is styled like a Vespa motor scooter and can do 15mph* which he rides on both the road and pavement.

* I know it will do 15mph because I followed him along a segregated shared path on my bike. He was riding in the pedestrian lane.

 

[numbnuts]

This Is The UK’s First ROAD-LEGAL Electric Scooter!​

View: https://youtu.be/ddTPsmOFMc0?si=fuwRLHlXI3xpRNgL

 

[DCLane]

↑ is interesting, but he's riding a road-legal electric scooter on footpaths at the start which is illegal in itself as he doesn't appear to be heading the 15 yards to parking . It may be simple scene-setting but it's not a positive idea imo.

The speed varies in their blurb between 24mph and 28mph. The range isn't great, being either 12.5 or 25 miles for single/dual batteries. Not much. And I can't see on their site the single/dual option so have to presume it's single-battery only at the start.

 

[Bristolian]

So it's legally a moped NOT a scooter.

 

[classic33]

Start of the explanation says its a small motor bike.
At least they're being upfront on that part.

 

[Drago]

It's a moped without the benefit or being able to park your arriss.

 

[Bristolian]

Start of the explanation says its a small motor bike.
At least they're being upfront on that part.

Except for the click-bait headline and the fact that he continually refers to it as a scooter throughout the video.

 

[classic33]

Except for the click-bait headline and the fact that he continually refers to it as a scooter throughout the video.

Another name for a scooter is a moped.

It's not the first legal one on UK roads either. Seen one in Leeds, fully licensed, rider in protective equipment and front & rear lights. Being used correctly, on the road, where it belongs.

The one in the video, is registered for road use. And in the opening 90 seconds there's enough offences committed to get more than 12 points, and they've put them on youtube!