Driver tries to kill cyclist, hits building.

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Crankarm

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What a marvellous imagination you have.

Or she could claim she had a sleeping disorder such as sleep apnea like some woman who was driving a Range Rover who knocked down and killed a couple who were cycling approaching a roundabout. She claimed she momentarily fell asleep or blacked out. Case dismissed on medical grounds.
 

Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
What a marvellous imagination you have.

You think so :shy:.
 

slowmotion

Quite dreadful
Location
lost somewhere
"Clearly, had the hair salon not had an unusually large projecting bay window so close to the carriageway, this unfortunate accident might never have occurred"
 

Tim Hall

Guest
Location
Crawley
Could we possibly ditch the casual sexism, classism, etc. and stick to the points at issue?
Ever the optimist.
 

jarlrmai

Veteran
Maybe she's a nanny...

5 kids and 30 sounds very much as if at least one of the kids was not hers, this changes things because the parents of that child are going to be involved in the case.

Unless she had triplets and then twins or something or took on her husbands children from a previous marriage.
 

spen666

Legendary Member
You see in your legal spin you are being too generous to your client sorry this woman driver. She may well have had intent to kill as any REASONABLE person would think driving a normal car at a cyclist may well result in death of the cyclist. She was driving a frikin' great tank so serious injury and or death were extremely likely to happen. It is pure luck that this did not happen as she crashed into the shop instead. If I said to you, if you drive your car at a cyclist what are the likely outcomes in injury going to be? I bet you and most of Britain would say probably death or serious injury resulting in serious disability, coma, broken bones, life in a wheel chair or drinking through a straw. So in this instance even though the cyclist only sustained relatively minor injuries this was because of good fortune not because she lacked intention to kill or cause very serious injury. She clearly had intention or was RECKLESS as to causing serious harm or killing the cyclist. This is because she practically demolished the front of the shop and also caused serious damage to the large van. So she did have intention or was reckless imho opinion. The kids all 5 of them may well be her nemesis and saviour. With skilful interviewing it could be revealed what if anything the nutz woman said before she drove at the cyclist such as "Die you f****r, I am going to run you down! However in sentencing the court is going to look sympathetically on her as it could mean that 5 kids go into care if the father(s) is or are absent and unable to take care of the sprigs so she will avoid a custodial sentence. My guess is her punishment will be derisory - 3 penalty points and a £100 fine as she will previously been of good character, an exemplary mother and have done lots of charity work.


You are confusing opinion and law.

I have not expressed an opinion on her intent or lack of it.

I have said she did or did not have intent.

I am talking of what the legal position is rather than ranting about my personal opinions or views of her
 

Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
5 kids at 30 isn't particularly exceptional, one ever
You are confusing opinion and law.

I have not expressed an opinion on her intent or lack of it.

I have said she did or did not have intent.

I am talking of what the legal position is rather than ranting about my personal opinions or views of her

How can you know any more than I can or anyone else on here about her intent? Yes you have expressed an opinion on her intent. You are claiming that she didn't or couldn't have had intent to grievously injure or kill the cyclist as the cyclist is or was not seriously injured or killed. She still could have had intent and her actions could still be consistent with intending to seriously injure or kill, like driving her two tonnes of tank car at the cyclist. You are making some pretty big assumptions for the benefit of the driver. You may be a lawyer, and a defence lawyer at that, but you still only have the same information as we have i.e. newspaper reports. Have you not read properly anything I and others have written? Yes I am fully aware of the "legal position" you refer to. Your comments that I am ranting is incorrect and secondly suggests to me you know you lost this argument.
 
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