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montyboy

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I'm not sure anyone said it was "always" the best option, did they?


I dont think I said that was so.

I merely stated my own position when asked?
 

freecyclist

New Member
1589413 said:
Well you could always try not interacting with the drivers of cars coming up behind you and let them make all the decisions. At the minimum you will get uncomfortably close passes. At the other end of the scale one day someone will eventually say "Not heard much from Montyboy lately, wonder why?"

Id think if far more likely that someone down the benefit office will eventually wonder why theclaud hasnt been in to sign on saying "Oh lord has anyone seen theclaud ? she was always whining on about feeling intimidated but at the same time deliberately stopping cars overtaking , I do hope nothing bad has happened to her".
 

theclaud

Openly Marxist
Location
Swansea
Id think if far more likely that someone down the benefit office will eventually wonder why theclaud hasnt been in to sign on saying "Oh lord has anyone seen theclaud ? she was always whining on about feeling intimidated but at the same time deliberately stopping cars overtaking , I do hope nothing bad has happened to her".

:biggrin: Nice touch, Freecyclist. I do like a quality troll.

Some of us whine about things, others take control. I'll leave onlookers to decide which of us does which.
 

montyboy

New Member
[QUOTE 1589443"]
Then there's been some misunderstanding. This is what you said.....




....which suggests, given that you consider the activity to be very dangerous, that you think it should not happen.
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why because I think that something can be dangerous does that mean I think it shouldnt happen.

I think that your problem is that because we have disagreed on different threads you seem determined to find fault with anything that i post here.

please move on.
 

John the Monkey

Frivolous Cyclist
Location
Crewe
Sometimes this is a far better method of avoinding a close pass than taking the primary, sometimes too early and running the risk of being seen ass the aggresor.

It's less hassle, although it's only possible when the motor traffic flow has gaps - heading south out of Manchester, there are times and places where that's not the case - in those cases, I'd be very uneasy at advising anyone not to take primary at pinch points, or blindspots, personally.
 

montyboy

New Member
[QUOTE 1589446"]
I look at threads on an individual basis (except for with the few members who are disagreeable for the sake of it). If we're disagreed previously then you'll have to remind me where because I can't remember.

I'm not clear on what you're saying because what you have written is that it's very dangerous for a cyclist to prevent a car overtaking at a pinch point. Not that it sometimes is, but always. And if it's always very dangerous then I'm not sure what your variable is for deciding whether an overtake should be prevented or not.

I'm not disagreeing with you, as I'm not sure what you're saying.
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My view is not that it is damgerous for a cyclist to prevent an overtake at a pinch point but that it may be in other circumsatnces. My view is that sometimes cyclists can be guilty of taking the primary unecessarily which only serves to cause annoyance. is I am sorry if this was not clear.
 

benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
Exactley.

Sometimes this is a far better method of avoinding a close pass than taking the primary, sometimes too early and running the risk of being seen ass the aggresor.

If I have to take primary to prevent a close pass (and I frequently do have to) then I will. I couldn't care less if a minority of ignorant motorists see it as aggressive - my safety is more important than other people's opinions of me.
 

montyboy

New Member
If I have to take primary to prevent a close pass (and I frequently do have to) then I will. I couldn't care less if a minority of ignorant motorists see it as aggressive - my safety is more important than other people's opinions of me.


I dont think a "couldnt care less" attitude doesnt do anyone any favours.

If a motorist said the same thing we would quite rightly be critical.
 

Poacher

Gravitationally challenged member
Location
Nottingham
@Montyboy: I take the attitude that my safety is more important than somebody else's convenience, and somebody else's safety is more important than my convenience; would you agree?
 

montyboy

New Member
@Montyboy: I take the attitude that my safety is more important than somebody else's convenience, and somebody else's safety is more important than my convenience; would you agree?


I would agree 100%.

Safety is always paramount in any situation.
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
All sensible cyclists prevent or discourage unsafe overtakes, as it is, quite simply, their call.

All sensible road users at one time or another prevent or discourage unsafe manoeuvres of all kinds.
 
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