Doubling Up On Road

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benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
If you show the same lack of respect and consideration to motorists as you do the other forum members religeous sensibilities then i can see why you might come across as inconsiderate and selfish.

I think even a Christian would have to be very eager to take offence to find that statute offensive. Especially as it's most likely sold by a Christian organisation.
 

theclaud

Openly Marxist
Location
Swansea
I think even a Christian would have to be very eager to take offence to find that statute offensive. Especially as it's most likely sold by a Christian organisation.

Catholicshopper.com. Where you can also get these:

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srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
Catholicshopper.com. Where you can also get these:
And this:
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Medieval legend says that Count Ghisallo was travelling near the village of Magréglio when he was attacked by highway bandits. Spotting a image of the Virgin Mary in a roadside shrine, he broke away from his attackers and ran to it. There he took refuge, pled for Our Lady's protection - and was miraculously saved from the robbers. As the story spread, the Madonna del Ghisallo became known as patroness of local travellers. In more recent times, cyclists would often stop to rest and pray at the chapel, which is a local landmark, and is at the top of a steep hill. After World War II, Father Ermelindo Vigano, pastor at the shrine, proposed Ghisallo as the site of an Italian shrine for bicyclists, and she was given as patroness of cyclists on 13 October 1949 by Pope Pius XII. The chapel has become equal part religious shrine, part cycling museum, with artifacts and photos from the sport. There is an eternal flame that burns there in memory of the cyclists of are no longer with us, and services each Christmas Eve and the Feast of All Souls commemorate them. Patron saint of bicyclists and cyclists.

Do you suppose Fr Ermelindo would have supported riding two abreast?
 

col

Legendary Member
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Yes, it's government-linked, and yes you do. It would help you if you knew what policing means.
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I think you knew what I meant :rolleyes: But you had to make a point of it anyway didnt you. Ill rephrase, cyclists are not the police, we have no powers like the police, no matter how many cycling profficiancy lessons you go on.
Try being polite, and here is a real radical thought, give way instead of digging your heels in, its safer all round.;)
 

MissTillyFlop

Evil communist dictator, lover of gerbils & Pope.
If the attitudes shown in this topic are replicated by cyclists riding 2 abreast on the road then i doubt they will show the levels of consideration to motorists that i would hope they would. For some it seems the legal right to ride 2 abreast and the need to not be seen to be giving any concession to motorists is a recepie for pig ignorant selfishness.
The same selfish cyclists glorying in preventing cars from overtaking by their assertive riding will no doubt in the next breath be complaining about getting intimidated and close passed by the very drivers that they deliberately antagonise.

99% of the people on this thread have said they would move over so I don't know where you got this idea from exactly.

The Top Gear forum is over there >>>>>>>

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col

Legendary Member
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I know exactly what you mean. And you're wrong. It has nothing at all to do with any powers that the police have. It's about controlling the space around you for your own safety, whether this means giving way or preventing a dangerous overtake.

Get some cycle training, read some books then come and gave another go. I suspect it's because you don't gave a grasp of the issue that you're pushing those you don't understand into an extreme position that they don't occupy.
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Im not having a go, Im suggesting my attitude while cycling is safer and less prone to bad reaction from drivers than yours.

And I lost what you meant after you said "I suspect you dont gave .... " I wont even answer your get training dig, as its obviously a go at getting a reaction, but then I should expect it from you shouldnt i. :whistle:

Its the preventing an overtake bit I have issues with, most of the time, it seems, that actually causes more problems than it doesnt.
 

MissTillyFlop

Evil communist dictator, lover of gerbils & Pope.
Where ? I like top gear :biggrin:
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*top gear forum may not exist
 

col

Legendary Member
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it's not a dig. It's advice. And the correct advice is for a cyclist to police the space around him, for the safety of himself and other cyclists. It's very easy to do politely, it doesn't cause me any hassle, it increases my safety and it gives cyclists more respect on the road when drivers see that they know what view are doing.
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Why would you think I need cycling training? And I agree with everything else you say here.
 

col

Legendary Member
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So you're now saying that cyclists should control the road around them? If you are, what was all that about police powers about?
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But I should add, as it seems you want a (another) great debate :biggrin: As I said earlier in this thread, there are times for primary, and then there are times to give. I think the dissagreements occur on when to give. Now what makes you think I need cycle training?;)
 

col

Legendary Member
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I dunno col. You've lost me now with this legal powers stuff, which you now seem to be distancing yourself from.
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Ah your old trick of not answering the question but asking a question eh :biggrin: . Well I meant that you seem to come across as someone who feels they have the power to stop, block or effect other vehicles if you felt you needed to, even though your not trained or qualified to, as your judgement could be wrong. This comes across as a bit too ott for a member of the general public to me.
Now why was it you think I need cycle training?
 
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