Doping in other sports

[HF2300]

This is beginning to feel like a house of cards.

Not a surprise though. Really any endurance or strength sport is prey to the common doping methods; Fuentes and others have given us a pretty good idea that there's significant doping in most major sports; most sports' governing bodies are unregulated, self perpetuating and self interested; many have had rumours of at least feathering the nests of those involved, if not outright corruption; many have shown every sign of appearing to tackle doping while really burying their heads in the sand.

Meanwhile, Putin wants to carry out his own cover-up.

 

[Bobby Mhor]

Wenger speaks out about doping in football

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/10/arsene-wenger-football-doping-arsenal

One wonders whether he would say this without the current climate and I see Yvonne Murray's husband wants to push for an upgrade of her medal. This is beginning to feel like a house of cards.

There was talk of footballers being involved with Fuentes, who originally was a gynecologist (obvious joke)
Old BBC article HERE

American sport...
Baseball has implemented more testing after the widespread use of PEDs etc
but the NFL? ..Deadspin article HERE
PGA golfers? John Daly's take HERE

Predictable...

As for the present situation in Athletics?
Back to bad old days of 70s, 80s, 90s..
Blame the Eastern Bloc countries...
Now its... yeah, its those bad Russkis
Classic deflection tactics...

 

[themosquitoking]

Funny how on every turn Nike is involved in this. The training camp in Oregon run by Salazar, sponsoring the Russian team kit, Justin Gatlin being sponsored and them bunging Coe more per year than most of us earn in ten years. I'm sure they know nothing about it though.

 

[HF2300]

Just do ... drugs

 

[User169]

Funny how on every turn Nike is involved in this. The training camp in Oregon run by Salazar, sponsoring the Russian team kit, Justin Gatlin being sponsored and them bunging Coe more per year than most of us earn in ten years. I'm sure they know nothing about it though.

Not entirely sure of the provenance - got it from twitter - but this is supposedly Coe's parking spot a Nike HQ.

 

[Crackle]

What I didn't realize, is that Coe is not paid a salary as President of the IAAF, that is surely not right. The IAAF also pay half of WADA's budget, so WADA is making itself a hostage to fortune too. So many things need to change.

 

[themosquitoking]

I heard Russias new solution to the scandle this morning, they want to get rid of WADA and run their own anti-doping agency.
I can't see a problem with that at all, can anyone else?

 

[Bobby Mhor]

Deadspin's latest take on it all HERE

Worth looking at the Nike coach tries to buy a race link near the bottom and who pops up but Farah's mate

 

[Crackle]

Deadspin's latest take on it all HERE

Worth looking at the Nike coach tries to buy a race link near the bottom and who pops up but Farah's mate

I like this bit on Coe.

This is the mahatma who says he is going to lead the IAAF out of darkness into the light. It’s almost as if, with Sepp Blatter leaving FIFA, Coe decided to seize the mantle of most comically inept international sports leader.

 

[Bobby Mhor]

I like this bit on Coe.

This is the mahatma who says he is going to lead the IAAF out of darkness into the light. It’s almost as if, with Sepp Blatter leaving FIFA, Coe decided to seize the mantle of most comically inept international sports leader.

They tend not to mince words..
Imagine the British press trying this?

 

[Crackle]

They tend not to mince words..
Imagine the British press trying this?

I dunno. The Guardian is making a pretty good fist of it.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/nov/13/sebastian-coe-british-challenge-russia-doping

When Coe was William Hague’s bagman back in the late 1990s one Tory MP described Coe as “nice but dim”, baffled by his energetically blunt insistence on being everywhere and doing everything without ever seeming to, you know, really get anything done.

The idea that Coe is the ideal man to gouge out the poison, to go on and locate and destroy corruption elsewhere, still falls at the classic Catch-22 of all such investigations. Coe has been at the IAAF though what now look like eight years of bribes and cover-ups. It is the classic phone-hacking newspaper editor’s conundrum. Highly competent reformers don’t end up in senior management positions in corrupted organisations. Either you know it’s going on and are therefore complicit. Or you don’t and are unfit to fix it. There is no realistic middle ground here.

Hilariously, in 2007 Coe even threatened to sue a TV documentary over suggestions he stood to profit personally from London 2012. And yet when Sebastian Coe Ltd, AKA the Complete Leisure Group was sold to Chime, a sports PR agency that had made millions from contracts related to the Olympic Games, Chime noted that he was “one of the most high profile figures in world sport” and said his involvement would help them become one of “the top three sports and entertainments businesses int he world”. Coe made millions on the deal and became a chairman of the company. Which is, of course, all fine. Or at least, to be expected.

All pretty damning. he needs to go.

 

[Bobby Mhor]

I dunno. The Guardian is making a pretty good fist of it.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/nov/13/sebastian-coe-british-challenge-russia-doping

When Coe was William Hague’s bagman back in the late 1990s one Tory MP described Coe as “nice but dim”, baffled by his energetically blunt insistence on being everywhere and doing everything without ever seeming to, you know, really get anything done.

The idea that Coe is the ideal man to gouge out the poison, to go on and locate and destroy corruption elsewhere, still falls at the classic Catch-22 of all such investigations. Coe has been at the IAAF though what now look like eight years of bribes and cover-ups. It is the classic phone-hacking newspaper editor’s conundrum. Highly competent reformers don’t end up in senior management positions in corrupted organisations. Either you know it’s going on and are therefore complicit. Or you don’t and are unfit to fix it. There is no realistic middle ground here.

Hilariously, in 2007 Coe even threatened to sue a TV documentary over suggestions he stood to profit personally from London 2012. And yet when Sebastian Coe Ltd, AKA the Complete Leisure Group was sold to Chime, a sports PR agency that had made millions from contracts related to the Olympic Games, Chime noted that he was “one of the most high profile figures in world sport” and said his involvement would help them become one of “the top three sports and entertainments businesses int he world”. Coe made millions on the deal and became a chairman of the company. Which is, of course, all fine. Or at least, to be expected.

All pretty damning. he needs to go.

Yep..
I never saw this..
but Nike need him in place..

I still can't see his 'strings'...

 

[Bobby Mhor]

Russians provisionally suspended HERE

 

[HF2300]

I heard Russia ... want to get rid of WADA and run their own anti-doping agency. I can't see a problem with that at all, can anyone else?

My, how we laughed.

Russians provisionally suspended HERE

My, how we laughed.

22:1. Wonder who the one was?

 

[Bobby Mhor]

A dig at others who gained UK Athletics funding or just in general?

I note on the list there are some who have earned a pretty penny from track and TV advertising....