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Doping in other sports
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oldroadman
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As examples of big money sport, tennis and athletics authorities and players clearly don't want to confront difficult questions like "there almost certainly be a proportion of players who will be tempted to dope and do so". Until the regime is at least as rigorous as cycling, with the same level of testing, there are very good grounds for suspiscious fingers to be pointed. After all, tennis players freely admit to using needles for "re-hydration and recovery" between matches, something which is now banned ubder UCI regs, and a good thing too! It was enough as a rider, even years ago, to have doctors always wanting blood samples for testing, makes you feel like a pin cushion!
smutchin
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To be fair, the angry tone of voice doesn't exactly come across in print, does it? Plus I think the online report didn't use all his words, only selected quotes.
Strathlubnaig
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Another raft of 3 month bans on the horizon maybe... http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/24900565
deptfordmarmoset
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I caught a snippet of a WADA chappie this morning talking about doping clusters, referring to Kenya and Jamaica. It appears that there is virtually no anti-doping enforcement in Kenya as it's run voluntarily. I was surprised to hear him say that, at least in the short term, there was nothing they could do because they lack the power to force Kenya to change its ways.
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There have been a couple of pieces in the Guardian recently about Jamaica and Kenya.
An ex-tester in Jamaica claimed that the recent positives are the tip of the iceberg. The govt sports minister replied by saying Jamaican athletes are the most tested in the world. Where have we heard that before?
In Kenya, the officialargument seemed to be that they live and race in Europe during the season, so do get tested.
Of course, as the Jamaican tester said, if you get caught in a race test, you've failed an IQ test as much as a dope test.
All in all, it's the same old crappy excuses.
Hont
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There's been talk of a blood doping ring in Kenya for some time amongst athletic circles. Not just kenyans either. Athletes who train there. Hmm can I think of a very successful distance athlete who trains in Kenya?
As for Jamaican sprinters: is it plausible that a small, relatively poor island can be that successful (8 out of the 12 individual medals in London 2012)? I share the view of Dr Wright, I think the recent positives are the tip of the iceberg.
400bhp
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I think the wheels are going to fall off in athletics shortly.
At the moment, the media hasn't really grabbed the stories to get the public's attention. The Russia and Turkey situation are a bl00dy joke but probably a lot to do with being "inferior" countries to us not being of interest to the main media.
I love athletics and it's probably my 2nd favourite sport but it's really lost it's way.
At the moment, the media hasn't really grabbed the stories to get the public's attention. The Russia and Turkey situation are a bl00dy joke but probably a lot to do with being "inferior" countries to us not being of interest to the main media.
I love athletics and it's probably my 2nd favourite sport but it's really lost it's way.
400bhp
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It can-success breeds success and all that.
deptfordmarmoset
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Ooh look, Brazil, hosts for the Olympics and the World Cup does not have an international standard anti-doping facility. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24920230
FIFA's going to fly samples to Lausanne, CH, for the WC. No idea about the Olympics.
FIFA's going to fly samples to Lausanne, CH, for the WC. No idea about the Olympics.
dragon72
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I'm afraid that, for me at least, with athletics, just as with pro-cycling, now it's a case of guilty until proven innocent.
The elephant in the room is Usain Bolt. I know that he's got form going back to childhood when generally one doesn't dope, but come on: he runs 9.58 seconds on panyagua while his buddies are all juiced?
Oh yeah, and Big Jensie and Spartacus never touched a drop either.
The elephant in the room is Usain Bolt. I know that he's got form going back to childhood when generally one doesn't dope, but come on: he runs 9.58 seconds on panyagua while his buddies are all juiced?
Oh yeah, and Big Jensie and Spartacus never touched a drop either.
shouldbeinbed
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...nd-using-a-fake-penis-to-avoid-detection.html
just think what he'd have done clean and sober or juiced to improve his performance.
just think what he'd have done clean and sober or juiced to improve his performance.
thom
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Interesting article about the lack of teeth/resources in WADA
oldroadman
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The Tyson quote about a fake body part potentially says a lot more about useless procedures at the testing (or unwillingness to find a problem) than anything else. He's quoting a test in Glasgow where his false organ was used. Now either he is being very economical with the facts, or has a poor memory, or the boxing authorities were relaxed, to say the least, in their approach to finding anything wrong. If I recall correctly, when you are tested it's stripped from knees to shoulders, which does not leave mush chance of using a fake organ, provided of course the procedure is followed and the tester is watching. All very odd, isn't it?
