Doping git thread

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When I used to work in IT, like everyone else I had to deal with a lot of admin tasks not directly related to the core job - accounting for time, updating change management records, etc. None of these activities were difficult in themselves, and I don't think anyone questioned the importance of them, but some found them much easier to deal with than others. This doesn't reflect on intelligence or sense of responsibility - it's more about how your brain instinctively reacts in pressure situations.

So I have no difficulty imagining that some sports people are going to find it harder than others to keep their anti drug monitoring stuff 100% in order. Logically, the sort of person able to keep everything perfectly in line all the time ought to be better equipped to successfully cheat the system, so perhaps the Armitstead saga is focussing attention on the wrong person. I remember reading that when Heinrich Himmler was captured by the Allies, it was the completeness of his papers that first aroused suspicion.
We all manage things differently but if your job depended on you making your timesheet accurate I bet you'd do it, especially if you'd had two warnings already.

And Himmler and Armstrong in the same thread is slightly mind warping.
 

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https://twitter.com/skysportsnewshq/status/761309215201775617

Is she even going to make it out of the neutral zone.
 

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[QUOTE 4396572, member: 43827"]One really sad part of this is that, like Christine Oruhuogo, Armistead will now be remembered for this, as much as her victories, by many people.

She was not charged with doping, just for falling foul of the testing regulations, which in itself is serious, but her incompetence has given ammunition to her detractors.[/QUOTE]

Christine Ohuruogu is no longer remembered for that. I remember it and think she should have been banned from the 2008 Olympics and I can't see why Armistead should be going to Rio (although I'm more sympathetic to what CAS said because the details in 1 out of those 3 were slightly different). No one ever mentions that about Ohuruogu any more the media love her.

It's the ground hog day again because after this lifetime ban stuff which was going on when Ohuruogu didn't complete tests, this year we have all this UK athletics plan which is essentially the same thing.
 
Christine Ohuruogu is no longer remembered for that. I remember it and think she should have been banned from the 2008 Olympics and I can't see why Armistead should be going to Rio (although I'm more sympathetic to what CAS said because the details in 1 out of those 3 were slightly different). No one ever mentions that about Ohuruogu any more the media love her.

It's the ground hog day again because after this lifetime ban stuff which was going on when Ohuruogu didn't complete tests, this year we have all this UK athletics plan which is essentially the same thing.
I only associate her with the ban stuff and the subsequent 'poor me' response.
 

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I only associate her with the ban stuff and the subsequent 'poor me' response.

I wouldn't expect any less.

It was just really a compare and contrast. Nearly a decade on and multiple gold medals for Ohuruogu, the media have long since forgotten all that as she's won olympic gold.
 
...she operates in an environment different to the majority of athletes (not sure where she gets that one from tbh)...
It would appear this bit relates to there being very few female cyclists on the "Whereabouts" programme; so she's complaining about being "singled out" and being treated differently. Which I suppose opens up a whole new debate about ensuring consistent approaches are taken. However, she's on the programme so she needs to make sure she complies.
 

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It would appear this bit relates to there being very few female cyclists on the "Whereabouts" programme; so she's complaining about being "singled out" and being treated differently. Which I suppose opens up a whole new debate about ensuring consistent approaches are taken. However, she's on the programme so she needs to make sure she complies.


I'm sorry, but this is bullshoot. If you want to be the best in the world, then show us you're the best in the world. Don't go whinging saying it's not fair how you need to show people you're clean.
 
The female Secret Pro has a take on it too.

http://cyclingtips.com/2016/08/the-...a-la-course-and-doping-in-the-womens-peloton/

There are however, some riders in the peloton who get paid quiet well in comparison. And yeah, Lizzie Armitstead is one of them. Of course, with all her results she deserves a good salary. But with everything that has happened these last few days, her performances and whether she is innocent have definitely been hot topics at the coffee shop between us cyclists.


It’s easy to believe that she must be on something. She never looks like she is trying, she has won so much, and everything about her suspension was kept so quiet. How could you miss three out-of-competition drug tests? If you missed one you would be lifting your game, if you missed two you would be bat-shoot nervous and make sure you didn’t miss a third, but if you miss three, well…apparently you just appeal and get your first strike removed…


It seems strange that someone with such a high chance to medal at the Olympics would put her chances of going to the Olympics in jeopardy. Then there is the involvement and funding British Cycling had.


To be honest, I don’t really know what to think.
 
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The female Secret Pro has a take on it too.

http://cyclingtips.com/2016/08/the-...a-la-course-and-doping-in-the-womens-peloton/

There are however, some riders in the peloton who get paid quiet well in comparison. And yeah, Lizzie Armitstead is one of them. Of course, with all her results she deserves a good salary. But with everything that has happened these last few days, her performances and whether she is innocent have definitely been hot topics at the coffee shop between us cyclists.


It’s easy to believe that she must be on something. She never looks like she is trying, she has won so much, and everything about her suspension was kept so quiet. How could you miss three out-of-competition drug tests? If you missed one you would be lifting your game, if you missed two you would be bat-shoot nervous and make sure you didn’t miss a third, but if you miss three, well…apparently you just appeal and get your first strike removed…


It seems strange that someone with such a high chance to medal at the Olympics would put her chances of going to the Olympics in jeopardy. Then there is the involvement and funding British Cycling had.


To be honest, I don’t really know what to think.
Secret Cobblers though, that is.
If the Secret Pros are genuine, which I doubt, then they really ought to come up with something more inventive than trotting out the same stuff as us.
 
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