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She's down to ride the Tour de Feminin (UCI WE2.2) in the Czech Republic tomorrow with Russian national team. I'm assuming she'll be not now be riding. She won the TT stage in the same race last year by over 30 seconds on a relatively short stage (Finished in 21 mins or something). Three Russians in the top 12. Suspect it's widespread. She also did well in the TT world championships in the US last year.

I find it all a bit depressing, my daughter is riding too, and I know she rides clean.
She's suspended so won't be there tomorrow
 
I was going to do a considered lead-in, but have decided against it. What a prick:
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...-british-cyclist-handed-ban-taking-epo-255882
 

HF2300

Insanity Prawn Boy
"...when there is that much media exposure, about EPO, it is easy to be tempted..."

Yet overwhelmingly the media coverage in recent years has been 'don't do it' - but despite that he thought it was a good idea...
 

Flying_Monkey

Recyclist
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Odawa
"...when there is that much media exposure, about EPO, it is easy to be tempted..."

Yet overwhelmingly the media coverage in recent years has been 'don't do it' - but despite that he thought it was a good idea...

The media coverage also overwhelmingly shows that it works (plus people like Armstrong still seem to be enjoying life and benefitting from the results of their drug abuse), so for some people, this risk is worth taking.
 

HF2300

Insanity Prawn Boy
It does, and I'm not naive to that; and clearly that was part of his calculation since he referenced the loss of his previous junior title by a large margin - but the point I was making was that the overwhelming tone of media coverage of EPO and other PEDs in recent years has been highly negative, yet in his decision making process he filtered that out and did it anyway. There's a question there not only about his personal decision making and morals but also the general way athletes come to PEDs and respond to or ignore the prevailing atmosphere.
 
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ridiculous old lush
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Brighton
Konyshev, the DS of Katusha, is bemoaning that poor old Zakarin may be barred from the Olympics.
His defence that cycling and Katusha are above reproach when it comes doping is slightly comical especially when you consider that Zakarin, himself, was banned for 2 years for steroid abuse.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/zak...france-despite-calls-to-bar-russian-athletes/
Political as opposed to the exposure of state-sponsored doping! Putin-esque defence
“We know there’s a political war against Russia at the moment, and they’re squeezing us everywhere. It seems strange to me to hear talk about democracy from people who have colonised the whole world. They’re brave to talk about democracy when millions of people have been killed. That seems ridiculous to me.”
 

oldroadman

Veteran
Location
Ubique
Konyshev, the DS of Katusha, is bemoaning that poor old Zakarin may be barred from the Olympics.
His defence that cycling and Katusha are above reproach when it comes doping is slightly comical especially when you consider that Zakarin, himself, was banned for 2 years for steroid abuse.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/zak...france-despite-calls-to-bar-russian-athletes/
Political as opposed to the exposure of state-sponsored doping! Putin-esque defence
“We know there’s a political war against Russia at the moment, and they’re squeezing us everywhere. It seems strange to me to hear talk about democracy from people who have colonised the whole world. They’re brave to talk about democracy when millions of people have been killed. That seems ridiculous to me.”

Hmm...the track record needs a review, clearly. Anyone for a purge?
 

Big Dave laaa

Biking Ninja
Location
Flintshire
I don't know, they said that about him when he tried to out armstrong. He may be a little obsessive but he had a tough time of it. If I was in his shoes I'd probably be the same.
The Sky and Froome thing has worried me since his bilharzia episode and I really hope he's clean.
 
I don't know, they said that about him when he tried to out armstrong. He may be a little obsessive but he had a tough time of it. If I was in his shoes I'd probably be the same.
The Sky and Froome thing has worried me since his bilharzia episode and I really hope he's clean.

Well, they all said that when he went on and on about Armstrong et al ... :whistle:

I considered that but this smacks of an obsession beyond reasonableness. I have a lot of respect for Lemond, enough not to dismiss him completely but this is beginning to seem exactly like an obsession.
 
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