Doping git thread

[rich p]

The name Salazar springs to mind. He may coach people but obviously he does not encourage them to use any "remedies". If he did and MF was a recipient, he should ask for his money back after his cross country result!
Note that Radcliffe is on the high horse again, what a PR operator. Just like a certain American who consistently claimed innocence and pure talent beat all the others around him, until he, er, got caught and finally coughed. In her case I want her to be OK, but all the noise is concerning, attack being the best method of defence and all that, and it does her little credit to be seen as a bit of a publicity seeker.

Bollox, if I might say so.
There was a lot of circumstantial (and indeed, substantial) evidence surrounding Armstrong but there is none about Radcliffe, apart from that she ran a fast marathon time. And innuendo, with nothing, apart from her voluble anti-doping stance. The same sort of bollix that is now directed towards Froome, and before that, Wiggins. I'm surprised at you jumping onto a Clinic-like bandwagon
How would you feel if you held the WR clean and it was suggested that the records should be wiped?

 

[oldroadman]

Bollox, if I might say so.
There was a lot of circumstantial (and indeed, substantial) evidence surrounding Armstrong but there is none about Radcliffe, apart from that she ran a fast marathon time. And innuendo, with nothing, apart from her voluble anti-doping stance. The same sort of bollix that is now directed towards Froome, and before that, Wiggins. I'm surprised at you jumping onto a Clinic-like bandwagon
How would you feel if you held the WR clean and it was suggested that the records should be wiped?

there is nothing to suggest that PR has been naughty, just that she appears to be a voluble publicity seeker and likes to point fingers. As indeed a certain American did, who went on to be captured. In fact re-read and see the comment "I want her to be Clean". If you think that's spheroids, your right to express it. If staying in the public eye once a career is finished and possibly angling for a job in an anti-doping organisation is an objective, that's a pretty public way to do it. PR is a go-to person for media whenever doping issues are raised, and always good for a clickbait opinion.

 

[rich p]

what a PR operator. Just like a certain American who consistently claimed innocence and pure talent beat all the others around him, until he, er, got caught and finally coughed. In her case I want her to be OK, but all the noise is concerning, attack being the best method of defence and all that

That bit sounds as if you suspect her of being similar to LA, and are concerned.
Based upon what evidence, circumstantial or otherwise?

 

[oldroadman]

That bit sounds as if you suspect her of being similar to LA, and are concerned.
Based upon what evidence, circumstantial or otherwise?

See reply above. There is no concrete evidence, but a lot of noise, and the blood values business (which was all OK, apparently, good) did not help. Sometimes it's best to keep a lower profile.Unless, of course, you want the publicity and to keep in the public eye. Something of a good job being done there.

 

[Arrowfoot]

Bollox, if I might say so.
There was a lot of circumstantial (and indeed, substantial) evidence surrounding Armstrong but there is none about Radcliffe, apart from that she ran a fast marathon time. And innuendo, with nothing, apart from her voluble anti-doping stance. The same sort of bollix that is now directed towards Froome, and before that, Wiggins. I'm surprised at you jumping onto a Clinic-like bandwagon
How would you feel if you held the WR clean and it was suggested that the records should be wiped?

Actually there was no iota of evidence against Lance in the public space for years - no documentation, no leakage, no trail just doubts on by a tiny brave few. Even the Journalists were on his side. Suddenly now we have people suggesting that there were circumstantial evidence etc. What circumstantial evidence???? If his mates did not spill, nothing would have changed.

Paula on the other hand is behaving rather odd and it is not doing her any good. Her rhetoric on doping when she was competing and now is very different. She is now giving interviews on who she feels is guilty and who is not. In essence its damaging her. People who have been with her for decades and now wondering what is going on. She is certainly badly advised about her PR approach and this is where the LA approach to PR is similar.

 

[rich p]

Actually there was no iota of evidence against Lance in the public space for years

 

[Dogtrousers]

She is certainly badly advised about her PR approach and this is where the LA approach to PR is similar.

PR's PR? This is getting confusing.

It'd be good if she moved into public relations full time, perhaps on the US west coast. PR could do PR for LA ... In LA.

 

[Arrowfoot]

PR's PR? This is getting confusing.

It'd be good if she moved into public relations full time, perhaps on the US west coast. PR could do PR for LA ... In LA.

She is actually an important and iconic figure for the country and immensely for British Athletics. People around the World know of her than say Jeremy Corbyn. She can do much for the sport. Someone needs to talk to her

 

[Arrowfoot]

So no iota of evidence as I suggested. Lots of people are masters of hindsight.

 

[rich p]

Do some research. It's very easy to find, but I have no intention of getting into another LA argument. We've done those to death even on here

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

She is actually an important and iconic figure for the country and immensely for British Athletics. People around the World know of her than say Jeremy Corbyn. She can do much for the sport. Someone needs to talk to her

There is another thread for doping in other sports - perhaps take it there for discussion?

 

[Arrowfoot]

There is another thread for doping in other sports - perhaps take it there for discussion?

Perhaps you can help him out as the comments are directly related to his post.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

Perhaps you can help him out as the comments are directly related to his post.

Will do, on the other thread.

 

[Arrowfoot]

Will do, on the other thread.

Thats fine. I stick to this thread as its relates LA on the supposed evidence prior to his mates spilling.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

Thats fine. I stick to this thread as its relates LA on the supposed evidence prior to his mates spilling.

Aye, no worries.

Dinnae think you'll get much response re your position tho, as @rich p pointed out it's been done to death and you are probably one of a small band of people that thinks there was "no evidence" - good luck with that one!