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Dumoulin can see no reason his data should not be shared
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Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
The 'explosion' of Dumoulin in numbers
Nearly Tom Dumoulin won the Vuelta. For three weeks he headed to win, but in the sight of Madrid he went under. This is the analysis of its round, on the basis of the figures of its power meter.

I know of no good reason not to share my data rate.
Tom Dumoulin

Tom Dumoulin was named most combative rider of the Vuelta. © afp.
And then it was suddenly. One moment he was hovering on a red cloud, the next he was lying on his back between the smithereens of a broken dream. Tom Dumoulin flew in the Tour of Spain - until the second-last day. But what happened now in the final stages? He received a blow from the man with the hammer? Hit the fatigue in him? Or why his rivals suddenly harder?

You can analyze the Vuelta of Dumoulin in a hundred ways. But when you rid cycling of all frills and tactical games, but remains the basis of: pedal hard. And how hard riders stairs, you can keep up: almost the entire platoon drives around with a power meter. Dumoulin also: on his steering wheel sits a Pioneer box. It is recorded each step of his. And those data be disclosed by him in this piece.

'Why not?'
That's pretty unique. Without exception, such as Steven Kruijswijk after the Giro, there are no classification riders who publish their data. Fearing that the competition is doing a job, or because they are afraid that figures are labeled as abnormal. Dumoulin: ,, I know of no good reason not to share my data rate. Only the data from my trial, I'd rather not make public. It can read other things on my aerodynamics. The rest everyone should know. "

His trainer Adrian Helmantel says: ,, We can declare Toms development with the figures that we have, we share with others. He would participate for the overall win in the Vuelta we had not expected immediately, but it is not strange that it happened. In the winter we have asked ourselves when Tom a big round could win. His performance data showed that it contained. He kicked in earlier trainings and trials values that he did not make it into the matches. In recent Vuelta indeed managed to get a few hours after its share price values. ''
 

Bollo

Failed Tech Bro
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The 'explosion' of Dumoulin in numbers
Nearly Tom Dumoulin won the Vuelta. For three weeks he headed to win, but in the sight of Madrid he went under. This is the analysis of its round, on the basis of the figures of its power meter.

I know of no good reason not to share my data rate.
Tom Dumoulin

Tom Dumoulin was named most combative rider of the Vuelta. © afp.
And then it was suddenly. One moment he was hovering on a red cloud, the next he was lying on his back between the smithereens of a broken dream. Tom Dumoulin flew in the Tour of Spain - until the second-last day. But what happened now in the final stages? He received a blow from the man with the hammer? Hit the fatigue in him? Or why his rivals suddenly harder?

You can analyze the Vuelta of Dumoulin in a hundred ways. But when you rid cycling of all frills and tactical games, but remains the basis of: pedal hard. And how hard riders stairs, you can keep up: almost the entire platoon drives around with a power meter. Dumoulin also: on his steering wheel sits a Pioneer box. It is recorded each step of his. And those data be disclosed by him in this piece.

'Why not?'
That's pretty unique. Without exception, such as Steven Kruijswijk after the Giro, there are no classification riders who publish their data. Fearing that the competition is doing a job, or because they are afraid that figures are labeled as abnormal. Dumoulin: ,, I know of no good reason not to share my data rate. Only the data from my trial, I'd rather not make public. It can read other things on my aerodynamics. The rest everyone should know. "

His trainer Adrian Helmantel says: ,, We can declare Toms development with the figures that we have, we share with others. He would participate for the overall win in the Vuelta we had not expected immediately, but it is not strange that it happened. In the winter we have asked ourselves when Tom a big round could win. His performance data showed that it contained. He kicked in earlier trainings and trials values that he did not make it into the matches. In recent Vuelta indeed managed to get a few hours after its share price values. ''
Well that's cleared things up for me.
 
The 'explosion' of Dumoulin in numbers
Part 2 under the pic goes on to say:

Two parts
The Vuelta of Dumoulin is divided into two parts: in the first half headed it freely and without the expectation that he would join us for the final victory. In the second half he was slowly but surely one of the favorites to win the Vuelta. Already in the second stage he showed that he could come up with the best climbers of the 460 watts as it considers half minutes long kicking, brought him to second place in the ride. Dumoulin: ,, I wanted to show that I had not been idle after the Tour, I was extremely motivated "Helmantel: ,, naturally lies Toms quality in shorter work: this type of climbing are ideal for him.". It shows. In the first week Dumoulin holds the top position in the short nasty climbs, but also in the longer climb Alpujarras, where Bert-Jan Lindeman wins the ride. The day after one finishes on Cumbre del Sol, a wall of about four kilometers. Dumoulin attacks and is taken back by Chris Froome, but he has picked up and is the winner. The power meter provides 460 watts of eleven minutes. Helmantel: ,, Incredibly high, but it is still below the record of his training. Particularly special is that he can after four hours race. "Dumoulin:. ,, Here I surprised myself I felt even stronger than in the first days of the Vuelta.
 

HF2300

Insanity Prawn Boy
Part 2 under the pic goes on to say:

Two parts
The Vuelta of Dumoulin is divided into two parts: in the first half headed it freely and without the expectation that he would join us for the final victory. In the second half he was slowly but surely one of the favorites to win the Vuelta. Already in the second stage he showed that he could come up with the best climbers of the 460 watts as it considers half minutes long kicking, brought him to second place in the ride. Dumoulin: ,, I wanted to show that I had not been idle after the Tour, I was extremely motivated "Helmantel: ,, naturally lies Toms quality in shorter work: this type of climbing are ideal for him.". It shows. In the first week Dumoulin holds the top position in the short nasty climbs, but also in the longer climb Alpujarras, where Bert-Jan Lindeman wins the ride. The day after one finishes on Cumbre del Sol, a wall of about four kilometers. Dumoulin attacks and is taken back by Chris Froome, but he has picked up and is the winner. The power meter provides 460 watts of eleven minutes. Helmantel: ,, Incredibly high, but it is still below the record of his training. Particularly special is that he can after four hours race. "Dumoulin:. ,, Here I surprised myself I felt even stronger than in the first days of the Vuelta.

I'm willing to bet it doesn't go on to say that, not in the original Dutch anyway! ;)

Thanks @Marmion & @Dogtrousers
 
In twitterland, Race Radio is reporting that former Pro Mariano Piccoli has been sentenced to 18 months and a 15,000 Euro fine for supplying dope to riders on the U23 team he managed.
 
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In twitterland, Race Radio is reporting that former Pro Mariano Piccoli has been sentenced to 18 months and a 15,000 Euro fine for supplying dope to riders on the U23 team he managed.
That's a bit dispiriting for those of us who hoped the younger generation were cleaner
 
That's a bit dispiriting for those of us who hoped the younger generation were cleaner
I'm not sure how old the supplying charge is, I can't find much detail on the interweb about it, but it could be quite a few years old perhaps 5 or 6 years if the small amount of info I can find is to be relied upon.

Piccoli was named as a supplier during the Mantova enquiry, and it looks as if he was DS of the U23 team around the same time, so 2008/09.
 
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