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His twin?
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ColinJ
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Nah, he vanished before he learned to speak!
Might be useful for a cheeky semi-auto-transfusion.
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Mention of Armstrong sure brings out the best in Kimmage 
http://www.independent.ie/sport/oth...rmstrong-or-see-him-as-a-victim-31300481.html
http://www.independent.ie/sport/oth...rmstrong-or-see-him-as-a-victim-31300481.html
HF2300
Insanity Prawn Boy
HF2300
Insanity Prawn Boy
Started reading it, couldn't be arsed.
Which was actually further than I got.
Nowadays, everybody's seems to want to write something...
Bruyneel has been telling that he is writing a book, in which "he will be able to tell his side of the story".
In this way, he doesn't need to "do interview after interview, which can lead to quotes be taken out of context".
He hopes that "people, especially journalists, will read it with an open mind."
Bruyneel has been telling that he is writing a book, in which "he will be able to tell his side of the story".
In this way, he doesn't need to "do interview after interview, which can lead to quotes be taken out of context".
He hopes that "people, especially journalists, will read it with an open mind."
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Manolo, Manolo, please go, please go...
http://velonews.competitor.com/2015...to-head-new-u23-and-elite-amateur-team_374427
http://velonews.competitor.com/2015...to-head-new-u23-and-elite-amateur-team_374427
RobNewcastle
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Interesting listening to the Telegraph cycling podcast the other day, one of the journos (forget which one) touched on the questionable levels of "achievement" at the Giro and the increasing back drop of feeling amongst some riders that all is not well in the peloton. I think a few of us watching the way Astana rode and in particular and the way Landa crossed the line on his stage win in the mountains so "effortlessly" has raised eyebrows.
Does this suggets that the problem is greater than previously thought? Wasn't there a recent French study on micro dosing which showed that serious gains could be made without detection. I feel like most of what I'm watching these days is far more believable and riders certainly seem to have more bad days, look more tired and you don't see those outrageous long lone effort attacks like you used to (Rasmussen eg).
But if journos and cyclists are asking questions about how Astana looked for example then surely the UCI must have noticed too?
Does this suggets that the problem is greater than previously thought? Wasn't there a recent French study on micro dosing which showed that serious gains could be made without detection. I feel like most of what I'm watching these days is far more believable and riders certainly seem to have more bad days, look more tired and you don't see those outrageous long lone effort attacks like you used to (Rasmussen eg).
But if journos and cyclists are asking questions about how Astana looked for example then surely the UCI must have noticed too?
blackgoff
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Yes i share the Astana thoughts, s.things amiss. Aru made a miraculous resurrection even Christ would be proud of lol
The giro was soo fast even the breaks very rarely happened. Generally it was Tinkoff riding for the 1st part then Astana never got off the front...for the 2nd ½ of race... & Contador sat on, effectively.
If you follow Durianrider, he outz alot, even tho 'its clean now, its not. I don't know why, but I've been in this sport for 30yrs and even back when epo was flying around the 'way' they rode was questionable.. and so i fell something's amiss. How can Aru turn around & put a better performance in than when he started ? It'll never be perfect ! Where competition is, never, ever.
The giro was soo fast even the breaks very rarely happened. Generally it was Tinkoff riding for the 1st part then Astana never got off the front...for the 2nd ½ of race... & Contador sat on, effectively.
If you follow Durianrider, he outz alot, even tho 'its clean now, its not. I don't know why, but I've been in this sport for 30yrs and even back when epo was flying around the 'way' they rode was questionable.. and so i fell something's amiss. How can Aru turn around & put a better performance in than when he started ? It'll never be perfect ! Where competition is, never, ever.
Yup - Im sure they have - but as been discussed pure infinitum here and elsewhere how do you prove it - Im sure better minds than mine are working to try to find solutions - short of sending an army of Marmies to the finishing lines with red cards what can the UCI do within the legal framework they have to work within
RobNewcastle
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Well put.