Don't ride in groups or we will be stopped cycling completely.

[rogerzilla]

I might do the local singletrack tomorrow. It's very narrow but is emphatically one-way, so should be fine.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

People are getting it. Wide passes on my off road routes. Use of the bell when approaching from behind, from sufficient distance not to startle, and by the time they have 'thought about it' I'm getting near. One iped that didn't hear me ding, nor ask to get past until I said it quite loudly.

But if there are 2 of them, why do they bother go in opposite sides of the road/track, why not both to the same side!

 

[Ming the Merciless]

I have to say in complete contrast to @PaulSB 's experiences, here in Bolton on the Lancs/Mancs border, social distancing and staying home seems to be unheard of.
The roads are quieter, but they are still pretty damn busy. Even on my own little street I'm regularly seeing cars and vans coming and going.
The next door neighbours are having family members visit often (young couple and no health issues that are apparent) as are the couple across the road.
Lots more walkers in the moors/hills although they seem to be couples and families.
The 2m thing isn't all that widely used from what I'm seeing. It didn't bother me much at first but as the death toll rises, its bothering me alot now.
There is a completely unrelated silver lining though...the mutt and I are garden camping tonight

The COVID tracker reflects your experience.

 

[screenman]

It's one thing for police to enforce the rules, but it is a step too far when power-crazed idiots like this start making them up as well.

Why isn't Priti coming out from hiding and setting them straight? Or is she happy with this approach?

I think it might have been Derbyshire that broke up over 600 parties last week, so they are doing plenty right.

 

[vickster]

I think it might have been Derbyshire that broke up over 600 parties last week, so they are doing plenty right.

Greater Manchester i think

 

[Vantage]

The COVID tracker reflects your experience.

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Doesn't surprise me. This town is full of peanuts.

 

[Randomnerd]

Does the tracker map allow for population density? If not, I don’t see how you can infer people in the lighter coloured areas are somehow better citizens. There are just fewer of them, surely? Aren’t 67.87% of statistics pure nonsense?

 

[wajc]

Just seen the latest Public Information broadcast on the BBC.

There's no longer any explicit reference to exercise as an excuse for leaving the house, only a mention of "food, health reasons or work", although one could argue that health encompasses exercise.

Interesting change of emphasis, nevertheless.

For the definitive advice on what you are allowed to do I'd refer only to the government website

UK Government Covid 19 - What you need to do

Everything else you read or hear, even on somewhere like the BBC website is not necessarily in line with the official advice and guidance. It doesn't help though when people like Michael Gove give their unofficial views on the length of time one should exercise also.

Cabinet Office minister Michael Gove said on Sunday 29 March, 'I would have thought for most people a walk of up to an hour, a run of 30 minutes or a cycle ride of between that, depending on their level of fitness, is appropriate.'

The whole statement is rather woolly 'I would have thought' , 'most' arn't explicit terms. Unfortunately this sort of thing gets picked up by the media and elsewhere and then they try and tell us that this is the rule - when it isn't

 

[Rusty Nails]

I think it might have been Derbyshire that broke up over 600 parties last week, so they are doing plenty right.

Good. That's their job (and Greater Manchester's), not making things up to do.

 

[DaveReading]

For the definitive advice on what you are allowed to do I'd refer only to the government website

UK Government Covid 19 - What you need to do

No, that's not definitive and in some cases contradicts the legislation (which determines what you can be prosecuted for).

 

[wajc]

No, that's not definitive and in some cases contradicts the legislation (which determines what you can be prosecuted for).

Where is the definitive ?

 

[DaveReading]

Where is the definitive ?

If you are prosecuted or issued with a Fixed Penalty Notice, it will be because you have contravened these:

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/made/data.pdf

Note that, in the context of exercise being a reasonable excuse for leaving your residence, the Regulations don't place any restriction on how often, how long or how far.

 

[wajc]

If you are prosecuted or issued with a Fixed Penalty Notice, it will be because you have contravened these:

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/made/data.pdf

Note that, in the context of exercise being a reasonable excuse for leaving your residence, the Regulations don't place any restriction on how often, how long or how far.

The legislation has been introduced to allow for the legal enforcement of the government guidance - so I think we're in agreement that the government websites are the only places to get the official an up to date instructions on what you can and can't do - and not the media or anywhere else which was my point earlier.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...avirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do

 

[lane]

If you are prosecuted or issued with a Fixed Penalty Notice, it will be because you have contravened these:

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/made/data.pdf

Note that, in the context of exercise being a reasonable excuse for leaving your residence, the Regulations don't place any restriction on how often, how long or how far.

I am not a legal expert. But they state a reasonable excuse the NEED to take exercise so it might be argued if you go out more than once against the guidelines provided you did not have a NEED to take further exercise. Derbyshire today issuing notices where drivers have driven an excessive distance to exercise. Anyway I am perfectly happy to follow the guidelines as closely as possible it is the right thing to do.

 

[DaveReading]

I am not a legal expert. But they state a reasonable excuse the NEED to take exercise so it might be argued if you go out more than once against the guidelines provided you did not have a NEED to take further exercise. Derbyshire today issuing notices where drivers have driven an excessive distance to exercise. Anyway I am perfectly happy to follow the guidelines as closely as possible it is the right thing to do.

I don't have any problem following a guideline that says I shouldn't drive anywhere to exercise.

But if I choose to cycle in the morning and go for a walk with the wife in the afternoon, both from home, then I'd suggest that isn't against either the letter or the spirit of the Regulations (whatever the guidelines might say).

Bear in mind also that a FPN isn't a conviction, or even an acknowledgement by you of your guilt - it's just a voluntary payment to avoid the hassle, in the unlikely event of being summoned to court, of having to argue that you haven't actually broken any law.