Don't ride in groups or we will be stopped cycling completely.

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lane

Veteran
I would have thought far more than 5m, given how long road spray from cars remains in the air.

We'll mostly all get it in the end, asymptomatically or not, unless there is a vaccine. It's about slowing it down, not about totally eliminating the risk.

Cycling weekly quoted 7.5m at some reasonable speed.

Even if 80% of the population do get it in the end (doubtful) on an individual level it's still worth trying to be in the 20% especially if you have any risk factors.
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
Cycling weekly quoted 7.5m at some reasonable speed.

Even if 80% of the population do get it in the end (doubtful) on an individual level it's still worth trying to be in the 20% especially if you have any risk factors.
And bearing in mind that there are reports (from S Korea and not confirmed so pinch of salt required) that you can get it twice - knocking the herd immunity theory on the head.
 
The purpose of slowing infections not stopping them. The government is probably doubly happy to have some idiots risking infection: first, it sacrifices some more plebs to their goal of herd immunity; and second, it builds support of well meaning sadists for tighter lockdown if government wants to distract from its failures. It's got very little to do with whether anyone cycles and I doubt Boris is really in favour of collective punishment, all else being equal.

That is all this lockdown was ever going, or meant, to do. Despite the shouts of condemnation aimed at people who breach the guidelines, it appears to me as if the vast majority of people still adhere to them.

The only type of lockdown that would stop the infections would be so severe that it would not be accepted in this country, or any other regime that governs by consensus, and would be impossible to enforce without the military on the streets. I accept that this situation is a price we pay for our relatively free society, with all its admitted faults.

By all means justly criticise those who flout the guidelines but the reality is that there are always people who believe the laws/rules/guidelines do not apply to them. Forbidding and criminalizing theft and violence has not stopped them so it will not stop some people meeting in groups or walking too close to others.
 

lane

Veteran
Yes it works in a "common sense" kind of way but that's not evidence. And as we know common sense can lead to erroneous conclusions. The article I linked above does describe some actual studies but I don't think they are peer reviewed.

Still, given the need to make decisions quickly I'm not going to criticise the Belgians for erring on the side of caution.

It's not exactly scientific because not enough is known about exactly how the virus spreads. But depending how cautious you are and how much at risk you think you are it's probably good advice.
 

Randomnerd

Bimbleur
Location
North Yorkshire
I’ve been wondering this morning what criminals are up to during the lockdown. When the world is busy, your average cat burglar is out and about, shinning up drainpipes and prying open French doors and so on, with Joskins waiting in the robbed motor.
Are they having a little “me” time? Have they hung up their jemmy bars for the duration? Or are they elsewhere? Any of our banged-up, kleptomaniac or drug-dependent brethren elucidate?
 
I’ve been wondering this morning what criminals are up to during the lockdown. When the world is busy, your average cat burglar is out and about, shinning up drainpipes and prying open French doors and so on, with Joskins waiting in the robbed motor.
Are they having a little “me” time? Have they hung up their jemmy bars for the duration? Or are they elsewhere? Any of our banged-up, kleptomaniac or drug-dependent brethren elucidate?
As long as they're not riding in groups, we don't care!
 

CanucksTraveller

Macho Business Donkey Wrestler
Location
Hertfordshire
I’ve been wondering this morning what criminals are up to during the lockdown.

It's an interesting question isn't it, there have always been quite a lot of burglaries on my estate (it's the prevalent crime stat around here). Rich pickings, everyone out at work all day. Every year they get markedly worse in the winter when it's dark by 4 and people aren't home until a couple of hours later. It's very much burglars' season.
Now with almost everyone at home, more people out walking, more hours of broad daylight, and police very obviously actually patrolling for a change (rather than bazzing from job to job on blue lights).. it must be hard for the scumbags, I too wonder what they do for weed money now there's a shortage of unoccupied houses and the associated free Toshibas and Nintendo consoles.
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
Report singular as far as I know
 

Milkfloat

An Peanut
Location
Midlands
I’ve been wondering this morning what criminals are up to during the lockdown. When the world is busy, your average cat burglar is out and about, shinning up drainpipes and prying open French doors and so on, with Joskins waiting in the robbed motor.
Are they having a little “me” time? Have they hung up their jemmy bars for the duration? Or are they elsewhere? Any of our banged-up, kleptomaniac or drug-dependent brethren elucidate?
I am half expecting to go back to my office block to find that all the businesses have been burgled. I think that commercial premises that shut down are at a big risk.
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
I’ve been wondering this morning what criminals are up to during the lockdown. When the world is busy, your average cat burglar is out and about, shinning up drainpipes and prying open French doors and so on, with Joskins waiting in the robbed motor.
Are they having a little “me” time? Have they hung up their jemmy bars for the duration? Or are they elsewhere? Any of our banged-up, kleptomaniac or drug-dependent brethren elucidate?
I saw a discussion of this on Twitter. There were suggestions that you should gather together some stuff that you don't really want and put it in a bag marked SWAG outside your front (or maybe back) door, to help them through these hard times after all, We Are All In This Together.
 

Adam4868

Guru
I’ve been wondering this morning what criminals are up to during the lockdown. When the world is busy, your average cat burglar is out and about, shinning up drainpipes and prying open French doors and so on, with Joskins waiting in the robbed motor.
Are they having a little “me” time? Have they hung up their jemmy bars for the duration? Or are they elsewhere? Any of our banged-up, kleptomaniac or drug-dependent brethren elucidate?
Universal credit.
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
I see Northants police want to search shopping trolleys to make sure that people aren't picking up inessential things in their shopping.

We will not, at this stage, start [...] checking the items in baskets and trolleys to see whether it’s a legitimate, necessary item.
But again, be under no illusion, if people do not heed the warnings and the pleas I’m making today, we will start to do that. link

Just in case you're unclear on what he meant by "checking items to see whether it's a legitimate necessary item" Chief Constable Nick Adderley clarified things on Twitter

I have been clear that we will not be judge and jury on what is an essential item or not link

Ah right, that's perfectly clear. Crystal.
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
I see Northants police want to search shopping trolleys to make sure that people aren't picking up inessential things in their shopping.

We will not, at this stage, start [...] checking the items in baskets and trolleys to see whether it’s a legitimate, necessary item.
But again, be under no illusion, if people do not heed the warnings and the pleas I’m making today, we will start to do that. link

Just in case you're unclear on what he meant by "checking items to see whether it's a legitimate necessary item" Chief Constable Nick Adderley clarified things on Twitter

I have been clear that we will not be judge and jury on what is an essential item or not link

Ah right, that's perfectly clear. Crystal.

Was that posted on 1st April? I could arrest the police for wasting my time...
 

DaveReading

Don't suffer fools gladly (must try harder!)
Location
Reading, obvs
Just seen the latest Public Information broadcast on the BBC.

There's no longer any explicit reference to exercise as an excuse for leaving the house, only a mention of "food, health reasons or work", although one could argue that health encompasses exercise.

Interesting change of emphasis, nevertheless.
 
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