Dogs!

[Angelfishsolo]

Not far off, though...

Vaugely remember my sister beinh in an early version of one of those.

 

[xxmimixx]

Maybe it was.

Dogs and kids cannot be tightly controlled, expect them to dive under your wheel and ride accordingly.

Im afraid I disagree and Im sure if you research this you will find that dogs owners have a responsibility to keep control over their dogs. That doesn't necessarily means to keep them on a lead (if they are trained obedience for example), however it is not 'normal' neither acceptable that a dog should chase a cyclist or any person for that matter, growls and shows signs of aggression toward anyone in a public place, or makes you fear it will attack you. If you do have an accident in a scenario like this the dog owner may be prosecuted and liable for damages.
Obviously like in any other circumstance you need to take care and ride accordingly avoid the dog, (or any other animal) or object in your path.

Kids.... errr that is another matter altogether!

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Im afraid I disagree and Im sure if you research this you will find that dogs owners have a responsibility to keep control over their dogs. That doesn't necessarily means to keep them on a lead (if they are trained obedience for example), however it is not 'normal' neither acceptable that a dog should chase a cyclist or any person for that matter, growls and shows signs of aggression toward anyone in a public place, or makes you fear it will attack you. If you do have an accident in a scenario like this the dog owner may be prosecuted and liable for damages.
Obviously like in any other circumstance you need to take care and ride accordingly avoid the dog, (or any other animal) or object in your path.

Watch out Crackle will have a dig at you now.

 

[xxmimixx]

is he a dog?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

is he a dog?

Good question, I don't know

 

[ufkacbln]

ive woke up next t a few

Children or canines?

 

[xxmimixx]

Good question, I don't know

Ok Im bait!

 

[ufkacbln]

The control thing is interesting.

There is a section of cycle path in Portsmouth where there were accidents between dogs and cyclists/pedestrians.

The decision was that it was a failure to control the dogs, and the whole area is now "dogs on leads" only, and this has been enforced.

 

[abo]

Anyone ever hit a dog when cycling down a cycle path? I've just missed 2, that's more than usual, I normally just skim one every other day but it seems that owners can't keep their dogs under control for the most part and the owners look at me like it's my fault, I'm very respectful when going past people, I ring my bell about 30m away, and if they show no sign of moving I keep ringing (Just in case they didn't hear, I've had times when I've been behind the elderly and they don't hear until you're right next to them), but when it comes to keep their dogs under control they seem to fail at it. The other day there was 3 dogs with two owners and instead of shifting to one side the owners stood on either side of the path with their dogs expecting me to go through to middle...felt illogical...

So yeah, anyone ever hit a dog? Or another pet?

Try bunnyhopping them

Only ever hit a dog while passenger in a Transit van. It came running out of a pub and across the road, it was like a wheel seeking missile, my mate tried to avoid it but it seemed determined to go under the van. It was a large dog too, not pleasent

 

[Bman]

I've never hit a dog. I've always riden carefully around them and been prepared to stop.

That said, I've never had one actually try and attack me. Im not scared of dogs, maybe thats the reason.

 

[Crackle]

Im afraid I disagree and Im sure if you research this you will find that dogs owners have a responsibility to keep control over their dogs. That doesn't necessarily means to keep them on a lead (if they are trained obedience for example), however it is not 'normal' neither acceptable that a dog should chase a cyclist or any person for that matter, growls and shows signs of aggression toward anyone in a public place, or makes you fear it will attack you. If you do have an accident in a scenario like this the dog owner may be prosecuted and liable for damages.
Obviously like in any other circumstance you need to take care and ride accordingly avoid the dog, (or any other animal) or object in your path.

Kids.... errr that is another matter altogether!

Where did anyone mention dogs acting aggresively or chasing people. That of course is a totally different scenario. A dog being under control is a dog that responds to commands, the instant bit or the tight control is what Norm was making the point about, you have to give a little leeway for people bringing their dog under control.

 

[xxmimixx]

Where did anyone mention dogs acting aggresively or chasing people. That of course is a totally different scenario. A dog being under control is a dog that responds to commands, the instant bit or the tight control is what Norm was making the point about, you have to give a little leeway for people bringing their dog under control.

Posters have reported dog running straight in front of their wheels, or snarling and growling, even being bitten!. Hence my reply

 

[Norm]

Dogs should be under control at all times in public places. That either means a lead or a dog that responds instantly to commands.

Im afraid I disagree and Im sure if you research this you will find that dogs owners have a responsibility to keep control over their dogs.

The word which you both missed is "tightly".

A dog can be under control but still wander around. There is no legal or moral requirement for every dog owner to immobilise their dog because there is a cyclist nearby. Conversely, the cyclist has both a legal and moral responsibility not to run down dogs.

And, xx, I think you could do with some research too. Although you can skip looking into the word "condescension", you seem to have that one nailed.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Where did anyone mention dogs acting aggresively or chasing people. That of course is a totally different scenario. A dog being under control is a dog that responds to commands, the instant bit or the tight control is what Norm was making the point about, you have to give a little leeway for people bringing their dog under control.

For a dog to be under control it must respond instantly. That does not mean it has to travel at light speed to its owner. Being bitten by a dog would class as an act of aggression I feel.

 

[Crackle]

Posters have reported dog running straight in front of their wheels, or snarling and growling. Hence my reply

I'm sure they have but if you're going to reply to someone, address what they say, not what others are saying elsewhere on the forum or in other posts, otherwise it looks like you don't really understand the post.