Does God exist?

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col

Legendary Member
Jaded said:
How can you not judge other faiths when they are so different?

If the Muslims share your God, why is their religion so different? Surely they should also have dull church services with a choice of

a) big throbbing organs
:biggrin: sandals and a guitar

?

Rhythm Thief said:
No it doesn't! When you die, that's it. Life is a process, not a kind off hotel lobby for heaven. When you stop beating an egg there isn't some kind of essence of eggbeater that hangs around in the sky when you've finished. Life is just the same for us as for the rest of the animal kingdom.
In short, it may well matter to you and your future that you believe in this bloke who lives in the sky, but it doesn't matter to me and never will. And to suggest otherwise is, I'm afraid, patronising in the extreme, as if you're the one who's somehow got it right while all we poor deluded fools labour on under our burden of ignorance.


There will always be extremists,Who use religion as an excuse to do something in its name,and as for after life and souls,no one really knows do they?I think religion,or any belief gives people an option on how they think we end,which can help some meet their end in a less fearful way?
 

Jaded

New Member
striker said:
the general scientific agreement as backed up by the 2006 nobel prize winners John Mather and George Smoot is that the Big Bang occured about 15 billion years ago.

What was there before the big bang is up for debate.

are you disagreeing with these Nobel Prize winners?

Jumping from "What was there before the big bang is up for debate." to "there was nothing and Nobel Prize winners think there was nothing so nerr nerr" is a leap of faith! :biggrin::biggrin:
 

Jaded

New Member
col said:
There will always be extremists,Who use religion as an excuse to do something in its name,and as for after life and souls,no one really knows do they?I think religion,or any belief gives people an option on how they think we end,which can help some meet their end in a less fearful way?

If religion attracts the nutters and gives them something to hide behind when they want to blow people up, should we consider if religion should be allowed?
 

byegad

Legendary Member
Location
NE England
Jaded said:
If religion attracts the nutters and gives them something to hide behind when they want to blow people up, should we consider if religion should be allowed?

Clearly religions should not be allowed in a sane world
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Anyone who feels so strongly about religion that they will kill others and themselves in order to 'prove' it's 'truth' is in need of help not encouragement.

Unfortunately several religions have this attitude in their history, or present.
 

Mr Pig

New Member
I'm off to Poland tomorrow but I'd love to answer some questions, as best I can, when I get back. I think it's best to talk about one point at a time, like where did God come from or how did life come about, rather than go off on hundreds of directions at once. It just ends up a confusing mess that's not fun to read. Maybe I'm getting old but long threads of tit for tat slagging just bore me to tears! ;0)
 

Maz

Guru
spandex said:
Striker how have we gone from god to a caterpillar???
With any luck, the discussion will then move on to the original question about flies and wasps.
 

Mr Pig

New Member
Maz said:
With any luck, the discussion will then move on to the original question about flies and wasps.

We'll get there ;0)
 

Noodley

Guest
spandex said:
Well both flies and wasps have a vitial roll in the eco-system That is why.

That still doesn't explain bonj.

Perhaps explaining the existence of God is easier than explaining the existence of bonj?
 

Jaded

New Member
god invented blow, then rolled a mega spliff.

Then he invented bonj, but he couldn't eat bonj, so just left him.
 
I couldn't possibly put it any better than Phillip Pullman:

The religious impulse – which includes the sense of awe and mystery we feel when we look at the universe, the urge to find a meaning and a purpose in our lives, our sense of moral kinship with other human beings – is part of being human, and I value it. I'd be a damn fool not to.

But organised religion is quite another thing. The trouble is that all too often in human history, churches and priesthoods have set themselves up to rule people's lives in the name of some invisible god (and they're all invisible, because they don't exist) – and done terrible damage. In the name of their god, they have burned, hanged, tortured, maimed, robbed, violated, and enslaved millions of their fellow-creatures, and done so with the happy conviction that they were doing the will of God, and they would go to Heaven for it.

That is the religion I hate, and I'm happy to be known as its enemy.

Amen to that.
 
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