Do I really need Ride with GPS?

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Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
A person from RWGPS actually came on the forum some time ago and explained how it works with multiple maps. I'll see if I can find the post.
 
I purchased my first Garmin 1040 bike sat nav last year. Because it works in partnership with Ride with gps I also purchased the app as well at a cost of £70.99. I’ve downloaded a few courses that others posted up. It seems very expensive for what I’m getting out of it. Maybe I didn’t need to purchase it in the beginning 🤷‍♂️
All I’m after is some local rides that others recommend and try them out myself at the weekends. I know I can download directions with the Garmin app but not recommended rides as such. At least I can’t find them🤷‍♂️
What’s your thoughts please ?

Buy a city map and a state map. They dont need batteries.
 
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CAESAR AVGVSTVS

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Similar happened on my ride this morning, it tried to get me to cross a major road to use an “alley way”.
I gave up trying to create my own ride as it kept putting me on the footpaths it calls alleyways.
 

grldtnr

Über Member
What's with this new GPS thingy....

I use those signposty / mike stone markers...

much more hi-tec!

Coats, gloves leaves....! 🤣🤣🤣

I'm with you! I don't want or need electronics to ride my bike, I use my brain and piece of paper with wiggly lines on ,in pretty colours! The yellow ones I like best!
 

UphillSlowly

Making my way slowly uphill
Similar happened on my ride this morning, it tried to get me to cross a major road to use an “alley way”.
I gave up trying to create my own ride as it kept putting me on the footpaths it calls alleyways.

My GLW uses RWGPS for route planning, but always uses it in Driving mode, otherwise it will tends to default to sending you down trails/bridleways etc.that it thinks are suitable for bikes. If you ride a road bike then driving mode may be better?
 

ExBrit

Über Member
My GLW uses RWGPS for route planning, but always uses it in Driving mode, otherwise it will tends to default to sending you down trails/bridleways etc.that it thinks are suitable for bikes. If you ride a road bike then driving mode may be better?

I set it cycling mode otherwise it puts me on freeways or major busy roads. You have to review the route either way. I wish there was a road bike mode, but they can only use the data Google provides. Use street level or, lacking that, satellite.
 

T4tomo

Legendary Member
My GLW uses RWGPS for route planning, but always uses it in Driving mode, otherwise it will tends to default to sending you down trails/bridleways etc.that it thinks are suitable for bikes. If you ride a road bike then driving mode may be better?

No really as it has an indicator to tell you if a road is unpaved. Maybe tell the GLW she's doing it wrong....and then make yourself scarce for a while
 

UphillSlowly

Making my way slowly uphill
I set it cycling mode otherwise it puts me on freeways or major busy roads. You have to review the route either way. I wish there was a road bike mode, but they can only use the data Google provides. Use street level or, lacking that, satellite.

She checks new roads with Street view, but we now both tend to use komoot, especially on holidayin new areas as the mobile version means we don't need to take a laptop with us
 

biggs682

Itching to get back on my bike's
Location
Northamptonshire
She checks new roads with Street view, but we now both tend to use komoot, especially on holidayin new areas as the mobile version means we don't need to take a laptop with us

I have used komoot for the same thing once , looked at the route on line committed it to my memory and off went just following the road signs to jog my memory it worked out well and the mate I met up with did the same thing as neither of us were local to the area as it was midway between us.
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
Similar happened on my ride this morning, it tried to get me to cross a major road to use an “alley way”.
I gave up trying to create my own ride as it kept putting me on the footpaths it calls alleyways.

My GLW uses RWGPS for route planning, but always uses it in Driving mode, otherwise it will tends to default to sending you down trails/bridleways etc.that it thinks are suitable for bikes. If you ride a road bike then driving mode may be better?

No really as it has an indicator to tell you if a road is unpaved. Maybe tell the GLW she's doing it wrong....and then make yourself scarce for a while

I normally use "cycle" mode and find that RWGPS can occasionally take me off road onto cycle paths and tracks. Sometimes (not always) it will flag this by showing the surface as unpaved. So I flip between cycling and driving mode depending on what I want.

As a general rule I like to be kept off major roads between towns, where traffic speeds are higher, but I don't mind joining these routes through towns. But the algorithm doesn't (and can't) know this and often shoves me on crappy footpaths through towns.

It's a general problem with all automated routing algorithms - we all have different tastes and no algorithm can be attuned closely to these tastes. You can counter it by adding more waypoints or flipping to a different mode in areas where you don't like what it's doing and just generally critically reviewing the output.
 

Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
No really as it has an indicator to tell you if a road is unpaved. Maybe tell the GLW she's doing it wrong....and then make yourself scarce for a while

It may have an indicator to tell you the road is unpaved, but that doesn't stop it trying to send you down it.

You have tio check the proposed route for unpaved sections, then add waypoints to force it to go some other way for those bit. Perfectly doable, but fiddly.
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
It may have an indicator to tell you the road is unpaved, but that doesn't stop it trying to send you down it.

You have tio check the proposed route for unpaved sections, then add waypoints to force it to go some other way for those bit. Perfectly doable, but fiddly.

Doable, fiddly - and essential IMO. Expecting an algorithm to churn out an entire route that is entirely acceptable is a recipe for disappointment unless you really don't care where you go. Careful examination and tweaking of a route is a required step.
 
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