Do escort vehicles have the power to force others off the road

[Profpointy]

Actually it's a perfectly reasonable reading of my post, period.

At the risk of turning the thread into an English lesson, it's the difference between:

"Wide loads that pose a collision risk should be banned." (i.e. some wide loads, in some circumstances)

and

"Wide loads, that pose a collision risk, should be banned." (i.e all wide loads, all of the time)

While I appreciate that commas are unfashionable these days, the fairly crucial difference between the two sentences seems to have passed by several posters.

Oh tempora, oh mores.

Can anyone else help
explain this?

 

[DaveReading]

Can anyone else help
explain this?

Happy to help:


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[T4tomo]

thread rescue...the type of Escort that should be on the road....

 

[Profpointy]

Actually it's a perfectly reasonable reading of my post, period.

At the risk of turning the thread into an English lesson, it's the difference between:

"Wide loads that pose a collision risk should be banned." (i.e. some wide loads, in some circumstances)

and

"Wide loads, that pose a collision risk, should be banned." (i.e all wide loads, all of the time)

While I appreciate that commas are unfashionable these days, the fairly crucial difference between the two sentences seems to have passed by several posters.

Oh tempora, oh mores.

Surely any wide load poses a collision risk by dint of it being wide. If it isn't wide enough to pose a collision risk it isn't really a wide load

Never mind the obscure grammar lesson, but I fail to see what your getting at

And before you again claim intellectual superiority, I read and wrote technical documents for a living and the unforgiving test of clarity was a working computer systems that did what was wanted. I was quite good at it and did it reasonably successfully for 40 years. Anything that could be taken two ways would be queried and re-worded

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Actually it's a perfectly reasonable reading of my post, period.

At the risk of turning the thread into an English lesson, it's the difference between:

"Wide loads that pose a collision risk should be banned." (i.e. some wide loads, in some circumstances)

and

"Wide loads, that pose a collision risk, should be banned." (i.e all wide loads, all of the time)

While I appreciate that commas are unfashionable these days, the fairly crucial difference between the two sentences seems to have passed by several posters.

Oh tempora, oh mores.

Erm, no.

It’s simpler if you stick to your original statement:

“If a load is so wide that it can't safely pass traffic travelling in the opposite direction without forcing it to stop, then it has no business being on the road."​

and explain how that 👆 doesn’t mean that all such wide loads should not be on the road.

I have encountered several such circumstances (it’s a frequent occurrence on the A82, particularly along the side of Loch Lomond) where traffic in one direction has no option but to stop to allow the opposing vehicle to complete its manoeuvre using part of the opposite lane. It’s perfectly normal.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Can anyone else help
explain this?

Sorry, no. It makes no sense.

 

[DaveReading]

Surely any wide load poses a collision risk by dint of it being wide. If it isn't wide enough to pose a collision risk it isn't really a wide load

Never mind the obscure grammar lesson, but I fail to see what your getting at

And before you again claim intellectual superiority, I read and wrote technical documents for a living and the unforgiving test of clarity was a working computer systems that did what was wanted. I was quite good at it and did it reasonably successfully for 40 years. Anything that could be taken two ways would be queried and re-worded

Then I suggest we simply agree to differ, both about wide loads and English grammar ...

 

[Profpointy]

Then I suggest we simply agree to differ, both about wide loads and English grammar ...

We should certainly agree to differ on grammar, but it's hard to know if we agree or not to the underlying point as no one knows what it was

 

[Ming the Merciless]

"Wide loads that pose a collision risk should be banned." (i.e. some wide loads, in some circumstances)

and

"Wide loads, that pose a collision risk, should be banned." (i.e all wide loads, all of the time)

What is the definition of wide load in the UK?

 

[classic33]

https://app.croneri.co.uk/topics/abnormal-loads/indepth
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[DaveReading]

What is the definition of wide load in the UK?

AFAIK, there isn't an agreed definition of "wide load".

OTOH, an "abnormal load" is one that satisfies any one (or more) of the following criteria:

a weight of more than 44,000kg
an axle load of more than 10,000kg for a single non-driving axle and 11,500kg for a single driving axle
a width of more than 2.9 metres
a rigid length of more than 18.65 metres

Any such load requires the authorities to be notified in advance.

 

[Jameshow]

thread rescue...the type of Escort that should be on the road....

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Over priced ford... Give me an Audi Quattro any day!🍿🍿🍿

 

[Alex321]

Can anyone else help
explain this?

Well it is pretty meaningless in context, since the statement he made was quite plain, and did not mean what he appears to believe it did.

 

[Alex321]

Actually it's a perfectly reasonable reading of my post, period.

At the risk of turning the thread into an English lesson, it's the difference between:

"Wide loads that pose a collision risk should be banned." (i.e. some wide loads, in some circumstances)

and

"Wide loads, that pose a collision risk, should be banned." (i.e all wide loads, all of the time)

While I appreciate that commas are unfashionable these days, the fairly crucial difference between the two sentences seems to have passed by several posters.

Oh tempora, oh mores.

And what you actually wrote was:

If a load is so wide that it can't safely pass traffic travelling in the opposite direction without forcing it to stop, then it has no business being on the road.

There is no possible way to read that, commas or not, which means anything other than you suggesting all loads which too wide to safely pass traffic traveling (sic) in the other direction should be not be on the road (i.e. Should be banned from being on it).

And even in your example, the "some wide loads in some circumstances" means all wide loads that pose a collision risk.

 

[Alex321]

Over priced ford... Give me an Audi Quattro any day!🍿🍿🍿

That Ford was the pre-eminent rally car of its day. Then the Quattro came along, and pretty well made it obsolete overnight in top level rallying.