Do escort vehicles have the power to force others off the road

[classic33]

They shouldn't be on any given road where their presence (or the actions of the escort vehicle) presents a collision risk to oncoming traffic. See post #1.

Using that logic, a left turning HGV shouldn't be in the right-hand lane on a tight corner.

 

[Gillstay]

Using that logic, a left turning HGV shouldn't be in the right-hand lane on a tight corner.

Yep, but all the SUV's that do that for no good reason need a some driving lessons.

 

[gbb]

Seen similar myself, not veering abruptly but moving into the opposing carriageway to get oncoming traffics attention. Dangerous or alerting other road users ?
Given most people rarely expect.to come across wide loads, I'd argue as long as its done as safely as possible, it's a good thing, you could argue a neccessary thing.
Slow lorries, wide lorries, cyclists, cars, tractors, we all have our right to be on the road.. I have no problem with any of them.

 

[Profpointy]

Where did I say wide loads should be banned? Straw man.

Umm "If a load is so wide that it can't safely pass traffic travelling in the opposite direction without forcing it to stop, then it has no business being on the road."

 

[DaveReading]

Umm "If a load is so wide that it can't safely pass traffic travelling in the opposite direction without forcing it to stop, then it has no business being on the road."

You seem to be having trouble with the meaning of the word "if". It normally means (as in this case) that a statement applies under certain circumstances.

Happy to lend you a dictionary.

If you need one.

 

[BoldonLad]

I got caught up with a wind turbine blade convoy in France. Fortunately I was coming from the ferry, not going to, so I just took the time to marvel at the size of the thing - rather than get stressed out about missing my ferry.

We witnessed one of those, a few years ago. There were some small villages it passed through, where the Escorting Gendarmes, along with the Escort Vehicle drivers physically manhandled parked vehicles out of the way. There may have been prior warning not to park, I don't know, we were just watching, but, more than one driver must have returned to find their vehicle not where they parked it!

 

[Drago]

We had similar here in Poshshire when the wind farm outside the village was built. The fairings for the blade hub looked like A bombs, which was kinda cool.

 

[Profpointy]

You seem to be having trouble with the meaning of the word "if". It normally means (as in this case) that a statement applies under certain circumstances.

Happy to lend you a dictionary.

If you need one.

You call for vehicles to be banned "if" blah blah blah
Then deny you said it because "it was a straw man"
Then say the "if" means you didn't say what you actually said. Conceivably "straw man" might mean something different to you than everyone else

If you actually have a point rather than merely arguing for the sake of it perhaps you should make it and try and be clear

 

[DaveReading]

I have nothing to add to my previous statements, but if you feel a continuing need to put words in my mouth that I didn't say, then far be it from me to stand in your way.

 

[presta]

You seem to be having trouble with the meaning of the word "if". It normally means (as in this case) that a statement applies under certain circumstances.

Happy to lend you a dictionary.

If you need one.

What does "no business being on the road" mean if not that you think it should be banned?

We witnessed one of those, a few years ago. There were some small villages it passed through, where the Escorting Gendarmes, along with the Escort Vehicle drivers physically manhandled parked vehicles out of the way. There may have been prior warning not to park, I don't know, we were just watching, but, more than one driver must have returned to find their vehicle not where they parked it!

There's a Chinese system here with the blades mounted on a 'gun turret', so they can manoeuvre them any which way on the back of the truck.

 

[Profpointy]

ryon

I have nothing to add to my previous statements, but if you feel a continuing need to put words in my mouth that I didn't say, then far be it from me to stand in your way.

So what was your actual point then ?

 

[glasgowcyclist]

You seem to be having trouble with the meaning of the word "if". It normally means (as in this case) that a statement applies under certain circumstances.

Happy to lend you a dictionary.

If you need one.

So, replacing ‘if’ with ‘When, in certain circumstances,’ we get, ”When, in certain circumstances, a load is so wide that it can't safely pass traffic travelling in the opposite direction without forcing it to stop, then it has no business being on the road".

I think it’s a perfectly reasonable reading of your post by @Profpointy .

 

[Alex321]

Where did I say wide loads should be banned? Straw man.

If yuo can find a different meaning for "they shouldn't be on the road", then please let us know your interpretation.

 

[Drago]

If yuo can find a different meaning for "they shouldn't be on the road", then please let us know your interpretation.

Be fair to Diddy Dave now. Perhaps he meant they should be hovering above the road rather than be on it?

 

[DaveReading]

So, replacing ‘if’ with ‘When, in certain circumstances,’ we get, ”When, in certain circumstances, a load is so wide that it can't safely pass traffic travelling in the opposite direction without forcing it to stop, then it has no business being on the road".

I think it’s a perfectly reasonable reading of your post by @Profpointy .

Actually it's a perfectly reasonable reading of my post, period.

At the risk of turning the thread into an English lesson, it's the difference between:

"Wide loads that pose a collision risk should be banned." (i.e. some wide loads, in some circumstances)

and

"Wide loads, that pose a collision risk, should be banned." (i.e all wide loads, all of the time)

While I appreciate that commas are unfashionable these days, the fairly crucial difference between the two sentences seems to have passed by several posters.

Oh tempora, oh mores.