Discrimination and Loss of "freedom of movement" for poor and disabled

[Oldspice]

Trust me when i say 'You are not a symbol' there are no restrictions in the UK regarding disabled cyclist and i fear you are trying to drum up an army in the UK for a war that is not happening.

As far as restrictions for cyclist in your area, i have found none, and as for riding on a pavement, that is illegal in the UK as well. Do you have an ankle tag or some other type of monitor/court order that restricts your movements. From what i have seen on the net and from your comments, the only conclusion i have is that your talking tosh and trying to gain sympathy by bleating on that your poor and disabled and that the 'Whom ever' is out to get you.

This is the wrong place, to imply that disabled cyclist are being discriminated against in the UK and your gym reference is unfounded as there are many council and private gyms available with disabled access.

See your local health worker and if your not happy with them, change or move.

 

[mr_hippo]

What a load of drivel. OP, do you think the rest of us have a perfect life?
About me:-
Proundly deaf in left ear (100%) due to me not liking my Mum's cabbage - hit so many times about the left ear in my early years.
Very bad stutter because I was left handed - frowned upon in 50s UK society and caused a bad stutter when l was forced to use right hand.
Bullied in secondary school because of my height, stutter and hand-me-up uniform (my next yoingest brother was the size of a house, he had a new school blazer every year so l had his cast offs.
Non-supportive parents. Stopped telling them about the bullying because Dad would tell my 5 siblings so that they could ridicule me.
Accused of cheating at school because 'No one who stutters is clever'
Laughed at in front of whole school when we had a French exchange student 'whose first language was not English' and someone shouted out we already have one and pointed to me. The whole staff body and students were in fits of laughter.
Finished top of my class in a trade test in the Army Air Corps but because the officer did not like people who stuttered was kicked off it.
Need I go on? All of us have something wrong with us and it is our own ability and capability that gets us by and we succeed by our own merit.
I can also say that Thai bicycle shops discriminate against me because they do not stock size 48 shoes
Have you noticed that supermarkets are heightist? .What ever I want is on the bottom shelf and what small people want is on the top shelf!
Yes cycling is viewed as a 'sport'; so why is there a 'cycle to work' scheme in the UK?
OK so you are poor and disabled but so are many more people but that does not prevent them enjoying life to the full. If you were given a bunch of lemons at birth then make lemonade and enjoy!!

 

[ufkacbln]

I got so bored reading all that, so I found myself googling Minnesota state laws - do you realize (sic) that it is illegal to sleep naked in Minnesota, and it is illegal to tease skunks.....

That stinks!

 

[ufkacbln]

Breaking one of the "Rules", but you have stated:

There are other rules in place that restrict us from leaving city limits.

What are these rules specifically, and who is "us". Are you saying that cyclists cannot leave the city limits, disabled people, or is this another group.

 

[Mugshot]

It is a shame that "most" of you folks had totally derailed this thread before I could even get started.

I don't think anybody is trying to derail your thread, we're just entertaining ourselves until the next installment comes along.

Nobody is making you read the thread. Many of the responses were uncalled for. And I might add those responses in themselves were trolling in an attempt to discredit or derail this issue before it was even started.

You're right, nobody is making anybody read your thread, but wouldn't you rather people did? I'm not sure how many will be left by the time you get to chapter 5.

Chapter 2 is to follow, This chapter will be about the definition of "disability" and "disabled" A different perspective than the ones used by the medical and non disabled people.
chapter 3 "Exclusion factor"
Chapter 4 the ISSUE
Chapter 5 specific situation as detailed example showing how the issue is doing severe harm.(using my personal situation I find myself in currently) When poor disabled, like me, are finding that we are being excluded in full participation of cycling. (Partial inclusion is not enough, when it involves restricting our ability to care for ourselves.) I don't just mean recreational cycling like the man with the hand-petal bike(I have never personally heard of a hand-pedal bike being used as a means of transportation from point a to point b and for hauling of goods from shopping etc.) Recreational riding is more inclusive than other riding methods.

The chapters may change order or topic, due to unforeseen comments made by others.
Disabled Rider

I don't think anyone here is going to struggle to keep up if you just went straight to Chapter 4, or precis the remaining chapters into one more manageable chunk, why not do that?

 

[jdtate101]

Dear god. Will you just please STOP with the tirade and just GET TO THE POINT. No one wants to read your 'war and peace' epic 5 chapters, just learn to summarise and write up what your point is in ONE paragraph.

Please before we all die of old age.

 

[ohnovino]

 

[Longshot]

Disabled Rider, this may seem like an odd question but do you have a fondness for orgonite? Also, where do you stand on the subject of chemtrails?

 

[Jodee1kenobi]

Disabled rider take note from all the repsonses here........they get to the point VERY WELL!

Like most here I am still none the wiser as to what you are on about. What I can see though is that by labelling yourself as 'disabled rider' that is your problem, because that is obviously how you see yourself, disabled.
My son has disabilities and he will never have the pleasure of cycling/living independently (and I/he is not looking for sympathy and nor does he feel sorry for himself!). I can honestly say that he has is certainly not been defined by his disabilities, even though they have a huge impact on his life and the family's.

Please just state your disability, what your real issue is and what you propose to do about it in no more than 100 words!

 

[black'n'yellow]

Chapter 4 the ISSUE

The chapters may change order or topic, due to unforeseen comments made by others.

Frankly - I suspect this is the only one people are interested in. Maybe you could save yourself a lot of time and just get to the point - preferably before you lose any more of what little empathy people have left..?

 

[Ajay]

What bike do you ride D R?
Do you have a separate modified bike for your deer hunting?

 

[TheDoctor]

FFS.
I've read page 1 and this one, and I've lost the will to live already.
Is there any hope of a point to it all?

 

[LosingFocus]

[QUOTE 2074065, member: 45"]

• There is no norm in terms of ability.

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Does Norm know about this?

 

[Crosstrailer]

Disabled Rider.

So far, excluding the poll which frankly has some seriously bizarre options, you have written no fewer than 3,792 words in this thread. None of us are any the wiser as to the point you wish to make.

While I, and no doubt many others on here, have sincere empathy with what you have told us of the problems you have experienced in life to this point, your postings here are verging on incoherent rambling (and some would argue they have crossed the line already).

PLEASE understand your posts are not well written, are not interesting and are not entertaining (well not in the right way anyway). PLEASE just come to the point. No one wants to read 5 chapters of self indulgent rambling most of which is entirely unneccessary filler. You are endearing yourself to no-one and instead opening yourself up to ridicule, I am sorry to say you are coming across as an extremely arrogant person or dare I say it someone with mental health issues.

If you have a point please make it concisely. At present I can see this thread going only in one direction.

PS Hunting deer is cruel and is sport, not a necessity.

 

[ttcycle]

It's best not to take your personal experiences and apply them to a wholly diferent country that you haven't got experiences in. It can be read as very presumptious!

As mr P has pointed out, the way we view disability in the UK is not like the states and whilst I'm not saying that everything is rosy perfect, it has moved on from the dichotomy of normal vs disabled.

There are quite a few people on here with disabilities.

It seems like you've had awful experiences but your postings above are unclear and lacking in a clear real point. If you are wanting to create change, you're going about it the wrong way.