Discrimination and Loss of "freedom of movement" for poor and disabled
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Oldspice
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Just sounds like your neighbours were not bothered with you till something ticked them off. Your not supposed to ride on the pavement anyhow and if your not capable of riding on the road (some people aren't) then don't ride a bike! SIMPLE!
As for coming on to this forum to moan, it's your choice but why have you not gone to the 'MFC' that will offer you better help and support than this place ever could. Is it because you have been kicked off? Like i said in a previous post, just change your name and try not to ramble so much and they will never know it's you.
It's just not logical to come to 'Cycle Chat' when you have the 'Minnesota Cycling Federation' right on your door step who has the ability to help you and may also fund some kind of transport that you may be capable of using ie trike. Unless it is one of the three sites you have been banned from?
http://www.mcf.net/
As for coming on to this forum to moan, it's your choice but why have you not gone to the 'MFC' that will offer you better help and support than this place ever could. Is it because you have been kicked off? Like i said in a previous post, just change your name and try not to ramble so much and they will never know it's you.
It's just not logical to come to 'Cycle Chat' when you have the 'Minnesota Cycling Federation' right on your door step who has the ability to help you and may also fund some kind of transport that you may be capable of using ie trike. Unless it is one of the three sites you have been banned from?
http://www.mcf.net/
Oldspice
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disabled rider
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Your doing fine.
we are not allowed to give the door room. in doing so we have to ride center of lane the entire street, which was the catch i was talking about earlier. (FAR RIGHT NO EXCEPTIONS, except to turn left or pass something say a car that did a bad parallel park and is sticking 1/2 way out. when riding by parked cars must ride as close to the car as possible without hitting them) the turning the bars by accident is due to the frequency of looking over your shoulder and the traffic in the business district here is so congested at speed of up to 20-30 miles an hour. To ensure your not going to get run over you would need to keep your head over your shoulder looking back because the spacing of cars is often a 1/2 or 1 car length at most during the day. I probably am cruising at maybe 3-5 miles an hour? Don't have speed odometer on bike so not sure of my speed.
Not trying to make excuses here just trying to explain reality. some times what we think is not always translate to real world circumstances.
"the turn in opposite direction is a normal reaction that has to be trained to overcome." quoting the trooper Dewey, if I remembered his name right.
any way signing off been at this for more than 12 hours I think
Take care.
mangaman
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I won't quote your whole post as it was really rather super and quite long.
I've got a day off today, so I've had time to check the Minnesota cycling laws.
As you rightly say, they stipulate
"Every person operating a bicycle upon a roadway shall ride as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway"
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/getp...22&keyword_type=any&keyword=bicycle+operation
This is clearly madness and you have my sympathy - in the UK it is acknowledged that the kerb has drain covers, potholes, trash etc and drivers should anticipate cyclists moving away from the curve or wobbling.
Oldspice
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glasgowcyclist
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That's not what the statute says. I'll quote it here:
"Every person operating a bicycle upon a roadway shall ride as close as
practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway..." except "..when reasonably necessary to avoid conditions,
including fixed or moving objects, vehicles, pedestrians,
animals, surface hazards, or narrow width lanes, that make it
unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge. "
I'd ride as far out as I need to be safe. There's bound to be one of the foregoing exceptions existing to justify it.
GC
Oldspice
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You never read the whole of part 4! These laws are not overly dramatic!
Subd. 3. Clinging to vehicle. Persons riding upon
any
or toy vehicle shall not attach the same or themselves to any
street car or vehicle upon a roadway.
Subd. 4. Riding on roadway or shoulder. (a) Every
person operating a
practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except
under any of the following situations:
(1) when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding
in the same direction;
(2) when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or
into a private road or driveway;
(3) when reasonably necessary to avoid conditions,
including fixed or moving objects, vehicles, pedestrians,
animals, surface hazards, or narrow width lanes, that make it
unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge.
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Mugshot
Cracking a solo.
This.
Also what does practicable mean in this situation? I'm guessing it doesn't automatically mean in the gutter.
Cyclopathic
Veteran
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He's wearing the butlers hand me downs.What's the maid wearing
Mugshot
Cracking a solo.
I think you're spot onMeans use your common sense
MrJamie
Oaf on a Bike
Could you argue that "as close as practicable" doesn't mean in the door zone? I still don't get not shoulderchecking though, but if you are forced to ride in the gutter and door zone, what about a helmet mirror. It would surely have none of the problems with aim since you'd be able to move your head to aim it while still keeping your eyes forward.
I may have missed something, but it sounds like the issues you have would affect all cyclists and have very little to do with your disabilities, you might find more support for upgrading cycling facilities for everyone.
I think its a shame about the thousands of words as I cant remember much of the original post and dont want to re-read to refresh everytime theres an update.
I may have missed something, but it sounds like the issues you have would affect all cyclists and have very little to do with your disabilities, you might find more support for upgrading cycling facilities for everyone.
I think its a shame about the thousands of words as I cant remember much of the original post and dont want to re-read to refresh everytime theres an update.
disabled rider
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none of them were cycling sites.
You did read my post how they are obnoxious to other residents and tried to get me evicted over BO and tried to get the heath department involved right?
Yea I did tick them off I refuse to give in to hostile harassment and attempted exclusion, for not conforming to what they think is appropriate and 90+% has nothing to do with the cycling. Its the flavor of the month or what ever for them to haze me about....
"then don't ride a bike! SIMPLE!" This is exactly the "exclusion factor/ shun factor" I am talking about,. In stead of modifying a discriminatory law to make an exemption for disabled to use the side walk you tell me to stop riding. I have mentioned numerous times my ONLY transport for all things is bike, getting food, supplies, going to appointments, etc. basically you condemned me to death.(I am sure it was not what you meant to do. It shows how easy it is to exclude and how normalized it is, when the discrimination occurs the people doing it don't even realize they are doing it) I did mention that I had 6+ years accident free? with more than 20 years total.
My whole point is I am more than capable, include me, by doing a minor policy change.
The relevence to doing it here is as another poster pointed to the equality act is suppose to be more advanced than the west. Meaning your more likely to recognize that yes there is a problem and make an attempt to fix it. In doing so we or our leaders will see hey look over there that makes sense. lets do it here too.
I browsed through the Mcf I get the very strong impression they are focused on competitive biking as sport almost exclusively. COMPETITIVE being the operative word DOG eat DOG. This kind of thought process is against inclusion unless your elite. My focus and need is utility. Yea there is a off chance they might do a give a bike for PR.
But then that is not what I really need which is inclusion I got a bike. Not sure I would want to ride winter nor rain with a $1500+ bike
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Would rather have a utillity trailer like one of the ones I linked with the ball joint connected to the seat post. That way I can use a cheap bike which winter destroys and will be with in my means to replace it when needed. Then the trailer only comes out when I need it for big loads or deer hunting. I have not seen a trike designed to handle winters and a foot of snow with berms of snow at corners. most trikes I have seen are limited to 300lb which is lower than extended utility bikes with cargo rack. then I think they said top dog can only carry 350lb full grown deer me would exceed its limit.
The trailer option is 175lb load that covers both deer firearm and other nicknacks. my bike is rated 300lb I think. Then I am not exceeding load limits.
anyway I need to sign off...
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