Ming the Merciless
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A footway has a very specific meaning. Do you have some examples? I took a look on Google street view and could only spot what we would call roads.
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A footway has a very specific meaning. Do you have some examples? I took a look on Google street view and could only spot what we would call roads.
Ming the Merciless
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Oh didn’t know that, got a link to the existing legislation?
Cycleops
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T4tomo
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The only time I've nearly come to grief on a cycle path was due to some idiot with a dog. Unless your dog has 4 wheels I'd keep it off cycle paths
Ming the Merciless
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Alex said it already exists, which I’d be interested to see, and certainly the definition.
Dogtrousers
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My thoughts exactly. It's a political posturing waste of parliamentary time. It's just the govt sending signals to their support base.
But seeing as they're actually decided to waste their time on it, then fair enough. It can sit unused, or almost unused, and the statute book.
Ming the Merciless
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Since there are more pedestrians killed by cows each year, they will soon use parliamentary time for the offence of being a dangerous cow.
Alex321
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https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/part/I/crossheading/cycling-offences-and-cycle-racing
Section 28 - Dangerous Cycling
Section 29 - Careless, or incinsiderate Cycling
T4tomo
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she got released on appeal.....
Ming the Merciless
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Oh interesting, though it has that vague what would be expected and part two could only be assessed by someone considered a cyclist.
Where does it list what can be imposed if such an offence is proven in court? I presume there must be plenty of examples of court outcomes as it’s nearly 28 years old?
Alex321
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The range of sentences are in the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988, Schedule 2.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/53/schedule/2
I can't find any CPS sentencing guidelines for those offences.
Here is a report of one case
https://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/20742552.bike-rider-fined-dangerous-cycling-buckinghamshire/
Ajax Bay
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Ming he's just saying the offences exist in law, and that new offences (which have an effect element) will make minimal/no difference to the deterrent effect. Which is maybe true for individuals. But I wonder whether it might cause groups/clubs to consider how they run rides to avoid the risks of e.g. TTing on urban roads.
Dogtrousers
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The fact that ... The Animals Act 1971 makes the keeper of an animal "strictly liable" in most cases for injuries caused by their stock shouldn't stop them from rushing through the Dangerous Cows Act toot sweet.
When will this bovine carnage stop?
See: https://www.slatergordon.co.uk/newsroom/public-liability-and-farmers-duty-to-control-livestock/
PedallingNowhereSlowly
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It's a cycle path and a footpath with a white line painted down the middle.
My entire point is that cyclists should not be riding at anything like over 30 mph where they can expect to come into conflict with pedestrians.
PedallingNowhereSlowly
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I meant footpath, not footway.
And this is looking at Strava segments in my locality, not Regent's park. I think cyclists riding on cycle ways which are shared with pedestrians should not be riding at high speeds, unless they are arrow straight, have perfect sight lines and don't involve any junctions or places from which pedestrians may emerge.
A pedestrian using or stepping onto such a cycle way is not going to anticipate cyclists riding along at 30+ mph. Neither are many other cyclists for that matter.
