Cyclingnews talks to Armstrong - Interview part 1.
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Mattonsea
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I think everyone wants him to disappear , but he does not want to go away. It doesn't help that broadcast
company's flaunt themselves to garner his information .
company's flaunt themselves to garner his information .
with my devils advocate hat on, i don't see this as unfair..... lots of others got a 6 month slap on the wrist and kept all their titles........
yes he cheated and bullied people, but did he cheat more than anyone else(can that be proven)?
a cheat is a cheat, yes he may have been the most successful cheat, but i see cheating as black or white. all cheats/dopers should be on the scrap heap with lance if that is what the deemed punishment for cheats/dopers is
You are missing the point. Those who received a 6 month ban(which was not even a ban given the timing) did so after sharing their testimony with USADA. Armstrong had the opportunity to cut a deal with USADA before he received his "death sentence", but chose to carry on lying and denying. He has still yet to speak to any anti drug agency or the UCI,and is fishing for a ban reducing deal now.
LA ban wasn't just for using drugs and cheating but for conspiring to coerce others too. He was the mafia boss to the others street punk as it were. If you can't see the difference between Armstrong and Hincapie etc then you should read a few books. I suggest David Walsh, Dan Coyle and the USADA as a starting point.
Yes he was treated differently, but for good and obvious reasons.
Yes this may be true but im sure its much easier to tell the truth knowing you'll get bugger all done to you. Do you think the deal Lance could have cut would have been 6 months and keep your titles? They were all given nothing punishments to get the big fish in the boat.
Using your mafia analogy, If they had robbed a bank together and Lance was the boss we would have got 10 years and lost all his ill gotten gains. His assistants Hincappie et al would have got 1 week in jail but in between important dates, so in after his kids birthday but out for christmas, oh and they can keep what they stole...
booze and cake
probably out cycling
The thing is he is still acting as though he has good poker hand, there is no hint of him doing anything for the good of the sport, anything he does is all about the good of Lance and to hell with everything else. Those that talked were complete small fry compared to him, he won 7 straight TDF's for goodness sake and made a mockery of the level playing field he is still banging on about. I think his punishment is entirely justified, no other cyclist had his power and threw it around with such force. He was doing his best to taint and destroy USADA, they owe him nothing.
Its obviously eating him up inside that he is still cast adrift and banned from competition, but Mcquaid has gone and Hein has left so his poker hand is open and he has a busted flush, by and large no one is really interested in what he says anymore. He had his chance to co-operate and played a totally different strategy, it went badly wrong and now he wants to try another tack. Sorry Lance go away, not interested, he played hard ball, he lost. Suck it up and do us all a favour and continue to play golf in obscurity.
Its obviously eating him up inside that he is still cast adrift and banned from competition, but Mcquaid has gone and Hein has left so his poker hand is open and he has a busted flush, by and large no one is really interested in what he says anymore. He had his chance to co-operate and played a totally different strategy, it went badly wrong and now he wants to try another tack. Sorry Lance go away, not interested, he played hard ball, he lost. Suck it up and do us all a favour and continue to play golf in obscurity.
dragon72
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What's just awful is that there's still no real remorse from him. Just self pity.
He says that he'll take a life sentence or a slap on the wrists, just as long as it's the same as the others.
He's only interested in what he can get away with. As it always has been.
He says that he'll take a life sentence or a slap on the wrists, just as long as it's the same as the others.
He's only interested in what he can get away with. As it always has been.
Hont
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- Bromsgrove
Amstrong dobs in Verbruggen...
[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-2508961/LANCE-ARMSTRONG-WORLD-EXCLUSIVE-Drugs-cheat-meets-accuser-Emma-OReilly.html[/URL]
He also confesses to doping to win the 1993 Worlds.
Nice of him to clarify all this now, isn't it.
[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-2508961/LANCE-ARMSTRONG-WORLD-EXCLUSIVE-Drugs-cheat-meets-accuser-Emma-OReilly.html[/URL]
He also confesses to doping to win the 1993 Worlds.
Nice of him to clarify all this now, isn't it.
It's a bit like the saying: "You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours"
You stab my back, I stab yours
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Pedrosanchezo
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He doesn't once look her in the eye even when he is talking about her - she's two feet away!!! Comes across with the sincerity of a man who has been told to confess his sins or receive a one way ticket to hell. Oh and every time he laughs about something, like he also did on Oprah, he should take it as a hint that no one else is laughing with him!
Ganymede
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Emma O'Reilly says he never used the word "sorry" either.... and he refers to her as someone who "got caught up" in all this, as if her whistle-blowing his lies and bullying, then him slandering her and starting legal proceedings was something that just sort of happened. I was taught to analyse text and sub-text, but it doesn't take a professional to see that the language is totally unapologetic.
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Pedrosanchezo
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His interviews remind me of a politicians. Lacking sincerity, honesty and no hint of remorse. His only regret is finding himself in this position to begin with.
How many times has he said "we wouldn't be here if i didn't come out of retirement". That's the only thing i believe he feels sorry for - sorry for himself.
PpPete
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Wonder how much this cost him?
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armstrong-reaches-settlement-with-insurance-company
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armstrong-reaches-settlement-with-insurance-company
