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That’s what bumbags are for. I can run a parkrun at zero degrees in shorts and vest, but for long morning runs in winter it’s useful to layer up at the start and be able to take things off as you go.
 
Its a recovery week for me, I did the first workout of the week on my commute by RPE. Its supposed to be 7mins RPE5, 7mins RPE6 sandwich by warm up and cooldown (45mins in total) but you cant really see that pattern in my charts.
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My overall and max HR's are about right though:

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IrishAl

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I had a nice workout on the way to the office today - 12x 2min/30sec under/overs. That’s the longest effort (36mins) at that kind of wattage so it helped me hit a new power Pb for the 30 minute mark. 3 or 4 repeats in I thought there was no way I’d last to 8 never mind 10 or 12 but once I got to 6 efforts done I knew I could fight through and do all 12 Weather was nice and dry and 10oC. Wet and windy for the next few days though so that’s the commuting scuppered for the rest of the week.

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I did the 2nd work out of my recovery week tonight.
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It's a bit like comparing apples with oranges due to the intensity and drop in temperature, but I swapped my Vacmaster fan from the floor at the front of me (where the fork was probably blocking the airflow) to the floor at the rear and it felt a lot better 👍
 
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Norry1

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I did the 2nd work out of my recovery week tonight.
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It's a bit like comparing apples with oranges due to the intensity and drop in temperature, but I swapped my Vacmaster fan from the floor at the front of me (where the fork was probably blocking the airflow) to the floor at the rear and it felt a lot better 👍

Reminded you of a tailwind :okay:
 

Legs

usually riding on Zwift...
Location
Staffordshire
I tried riding the Tour of Watopia ride this morning, but my laptop had a little flip-out which meant I lost contact with the front group within the first mile, so I tried this nice little workout, which was originally set up as one of the Zwift Spring Training series with quite manageable anaerobic bursts. To pep it up, I'd plonked a 5-minute 130% interval onto the end (which I tried before and failed - see below), and although I dialled it down to 125% (375W) this morning, I still died after 3 minutes. So as not to finish on a complete downer, I regrouped after a minute of picking up my lungs and did the last minute back up at 375W.

I've got an IRL hillclimb event on Sunday and would like to be able to put out around 350W for the 7-8 minute duration. Maybe with nice, fresh legs...

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Here was what I'd commented last time!
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The 3rd and final workout of my recovery week last night. I had used TR 'alternates' function to swap the 90min recovery workout for a 60min one wanting an early night. Then I got a dispatch note on something I wasn't expecting till next week. So I messaged the boss and asked if it was OK to WfH and avoid storm Babet, he agreed, so I could have done a 90min workout. A 90minutes recovery ride is boring though so I left it at 60minutes and cooked a proper tea after instead of a quick tea. ERG was on so you'll see the initial power push to release the turbore. Elite's got an update out to make it a smoother start but it's still not made it to my phone :thumbsdown:

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I had my first workout in a week and half tonight. I had said yes to TR's new Master's Plans and that had swapped my week to a recovery week but I had a recovery week before my break and I was quite keen to try my new pain cave, so I selected a SS workout (Icefall -5).

I haven’t settled on my current location in this flat but upstairs is still unsold as is all but one apartment over the road with a large gap between us. So I felt good to do it in the front hall with the front door open. Lol, I had been meaning to do it on the TT bike but its gear cable snapped as I was putting it on the turbo, and it was getting late. So I opted to use the road bike.



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It was a lot cooler with this setup and the session felt quite comfortable.

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Ming the Merciless

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Strength endurance work today. A total of 47 mins with ice cold rain on last interval. Got an event on Sat and likely not much work before then as looking like very wet tomorrow. Friday will just be a bike and keg spin check.
 
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Norry1

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Yesterday I did my first structured interval session in quite a long time. It was a bit of a shock to the system but I managed to get it all done. It was 4 sets of Threshold Descending intervals. My FTP is a fair bit lower than it was at my July/August peak but that is to be expected.

3hr Z2 today. Probably have to do it on the turbo which I'm not looking forward to. It is mainly the saddle discomfort I get indoors which puts me off.
 
You can't really see much structure on my ride today as it was done on RPE but there is some. I had a recovery/ Endurance workout to do yesterday, but I decided to chill last night and do it on my commute today. I used TrainerRoad's ‘Alternates’ to change it to 45mins and searched around for one in their which had varying intervals rather than one long flat period. That brought me back to an old favourite for Outdooors, ‘Carter’.
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It was pouring this morning and whilst the old me would have went out with damage chemo has done to my peripheral nerves I decided to stay warm and dry. So after listening to the Scottish Football I selected a Train Now workout (Trainer roads automatic workout recommender). It produced a workout called 'The Priest' which I thought was apt as I was praying for the rain to stop. I never realised until it started though that it was stand up and sprint workout. I would have been a bit vary of standing up and sprinting on the TT bike but I had set up the Ti road bike so it wasn’t really an issue. Oh and I'm chilling out now to the UCI Track Champions League

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With improved cooling and not in a TT position it felt like I had to go a bit deeper so at the end of the 2nd interval I did.

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Ming the Merciless

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Just looking at 2023 vs 2022 “fitness” graph. With a solid progressive overload this past year I hit a peak fitness of 120, starting from just under 50. For the 2023/24 season I’m at a fitness of 83 today, compared to 46 same time in 2022. Looking forward to where I can get my fitness by July next year when I have my main target event.

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Norry1

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Just looking at 2023 vs 2022 “fitness” graph. With a solid progressive overload this past year I hit a peak fitness of 120, starting from just under 50. For the 2023/24 season I’m at a fitness of 83 today, compared to 46 same time in 2022. Looking forward to where I can get my fitness by July next year when I have my main target event.

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A CTL of 120 is already pretty outstanding - do you find higher CTL always translates into better performance?
 

Ming the Merciless

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A CTL of 120 is already pretty outstanding - do you find higher CTL always translates into better performance?

I don’t have enough training years to know. I’d say the last 18 months is the first time I’ve been really disciplined with structured training over more than just a few weeks or months. I have seen that increased volume is what shifts the needle for me, and pyramidal is the structure that best engages me and keeps me consistent longer term.

I ride long distance brevets and the durations are long, 5 hours, 13 hours, 27 hours, 40, hours, 96 hours, 120 hours, 210 hours etc. You’ve got to do a certain amount of long duration outings if you believe in specificity, as well as practising pacing, fuelling and hydration strategies. Managing multi day events needs different and additional approaches and strategies to events you can complete in less than a day.

My pace over brevet durations has gone up, and not insignificantly. How much more I can increase it is an intriguing question. Each year you have a limit as to how much you can improve, and if you do things right then in theory you can improve on that again the following year. Most of us have never hit (or got near) our genetic potential, and thus there is always room to improve each year if you have the time and motivation and right kind of structure in your plan.

I’ll also say I don’t chase CTL, it’s just something I observe. I have been following progressive overload and recovery. Once I’m doing the max volume and mix of intensity I’m prepared to do, and can recover from, then CTL will peak then plateau, and if I’ve timed it right a few weeks before my main event. Then I can taper, go into my main event, recover then move into my transition / chill part of the season.

Thus I doubt I’ll go above a CTL of 120 next season, but that I may be able to apply progressive overload at a lower ramp rate, reducing the likelihood of injury or overtraining on the way.
 
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