Cycling on dual carriageway and car beeps...

[gbb]

Ots a general misconception by some of the public.
I rode 5 miles to get a haircut some years ago and the lady was kinda horrified when I said I'd cycled there (via a dual)
But you can't ride there !
Yes you can, it's dual carriageway, not motorway.
Oh....

I used to ride this dual all round Peterborough years ago, it's a 25 mile circuit. I stopped as the years passed because of increasing traffic, and particually cars exiting at 70mph makes it hard to get over those exits just too dangerous here now.
Add the fact a former colleagues son was crippled for life on his bike at one of those exits back in the 70s I think...
Ironically, some single carriageways are more dangerous than duals...

 

[Rhythm Thief]

I've had just the same thing on one of the lanes round here. Ignore it.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Ots a general misconception by some of the public.
I rode 5 miles to get a haircut some years ago and the lady was kinda horrified when I said I'd cycled there (via a dual)
But you can't ride there !
Yes you can, it's dual carriageway, not motorway.
Oh....

I used to ride this dual all round Peterborough years ago, it's a 25 mile circuit. I stopped as the years passed because of increasing traffic, and particually cars exiting at 70mph makes it hard to get over those exits just too dangerous here now.
Add the fact a former colleagues son was crippled for life on his bike at one of those exits back in the 70s I think...
Ironically, some single carriageways are more dangerous than duals...

We have a big dual carriageway here - several of them in fact - and when I have looked I have not seen any signs that might indicate that you are not allowed to cycle on them
However, even though they have a narrow hard shoulder - cycling on them would be dangerous
Partly simply because drivers do not expect to see any bikes on there so might well turn off at a junction and not notice there is a bike there, especially if another vehicle is passing the bike
OK - they SHOULD look and see the bike - but that is little comfort when you wake up in a hospital bed to be told something life changing

I have only ridden on it once - and that was in the first lockdown when I went on an adventure looking for new routes within the allowed area and ended up on the main road - shows how there are no signs saying no bikes!!
It was wonderful riding on it all alone - one car passsed me peeping his horn and holding his hand out of the window with a Thumbs up

but I still got off it as soon as I could!

 

[figbat]

Some of the exits off of the A34 near me have signs that recommend that you ride up the slip road a little way, cross the slip road, then make your way back to the main carriageway. This sort of makes sense but then relegates you from an equal priority user of the carriageway to one who is crossing it and therefore must wait.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Some of the exits off of the A34 near me have signs that recommend that you ride up the slip road a little way, cross the slip road, then make your way back to the main carriageway. This sort of makes sense but then relegates you from an equal priority user of the carriageway to one who is crossing it and therefore must wait.

Yes - and this also applies to cycle paths on the pavement - you are expected to wait at traffic lights and junctions which makes some I have seen pointless because you have to stop and check for cars (etc) every hundred yards or so

Bikes are really seldom regarded as equal - just nearly equal sometimes and much less at other times

 

[Punkawallah]

Yes - and this also applies to cycle paths on the pavement - you are expected to wait at traffic lights and junctions which makes some I have seen pointless because you have to stop and check for cars (etc) every hundred yards or so

Bikes are really seldom regarded as equal - just nearly equal sometimes and much less at other times

‘All road users are equal; but some are more equal than others’.

 

[Paulus]

‘All road users are equal; but some are more equal than others’.

I recognize that quote, kind of.🤔

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

I recognize that quote, kind of.🤔

Based on Animal Farm??

 

[All uphill]

Two wheels good, four wheels bad.

 

[Moodyman]

That bit of the A2 is a doozy... but at least it has a full width hard shoulder.
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Also for bonus marks you can legally join the A282 at Darenth, which is what I was going to verify in the first photo, as I just couldn't believe it. There aren't practically many reasons you'd want to.
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As for the title question? No beeps ensued.

But you lost a pannier between the first and second picture.

 

[grldtnr]

That bit of the A2 is a doozy... but at least it has a full width hard shoulder.
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Also for bonus marks you can legally join the A282 at Darenth, which is what I was going to verify in the first photo, as I just couldn't believe it. There aren't practically many reasons you'd want to.
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As for the title question? No beeps ensued.

It's the reason why the crossing is an A trunk route, and not a motorway,, it allows non motorway traffic to use the crossing, perfectly legally , tho i'd question your rights to use it as a pedestrian or cyclist, intact they have always provided a service for cyclist and pedestrians ever since it's been open, so I expect it is restricted.
As long as you join & leave the bridge atbits first and last junction, or use the service you have every right to be there.
I might add it's been some time since I've crossed by foot or cycle, buni expect sometime this year to have too , as there is no ferry service at Tilbury/ Gravesend anymore,and I am planning at least one Channel crossing this year.

Not looking forward to it, as doubtless has changed a lot since I last did , and that was the last Millennium !
I have crossed by car since of course.

 

[Solocle]

But you lost a pannier between the first and second picture.

And 5 months in the interim too.

Two London area rides where I considered the feasability of a Watling St epic (hence the interest in sampling the A2).

It's the reason why the crossing is an A trunk route, and not a motorway,, it allows non motorway traffic to use the crossing, perfectly legally , tho i'd question your rights to use it as a pedestrian or cyclist, intact they have always provided a service for cyclist and pedestrians ever since it's been open, so I expect it is restricted.
As long as you join & leave the bridge atbits first and last junction, or use the service you have every right to be there.
I might add it's been some time since I've crossed by foot or cycle, buni expect sometime this year to have too , as there is no ferry service at Tilbury/ Gravesend anymore,and I am planning at least one Channel crossing this year.

Not looking forward to it, as doubtless has changed a lot since I last did , and that was the last Millennium !
I have crossed by car since of course.

Cycling across the crossing itself is prohibited, and I did indeed take the crossing service.

Also there are various no cycling signs on approach roads north of the river, and cycle tracks alongside the road on both sides thereof.

As it was, cycling on it from J2 to J1A would appear to be legal, and in fact if you stuck with the carriageway, the cycle prohibition signs are positioned well beyond the exit, and I'd argue puts you in a catch 22 - it's a clearway, so no stopping is permitted!

But I'd suggest it's a really bad idea. For most of it, there's no hard shoulder, for a start.

I went onto it to see that it was possible, and then had an escape prepared onto the service road to Princes Rd interchange using the slip roads that were closed off in 1990. Easy enough to hop the armco.

 

[grldtnr]

Anyone with a modicum of sense of self preservation wouldn't be riding on the A282, and it's right it's not allowed, but there are numerous other roads around the country where it is allowed, in my area the A127 & A13 have stretches, particularly at slip roads that have signed routes for cyclists, which I wouldn't use just because, and yet there is a cycle track of sorts along side it, that is in a terrible state of repair, often parked on by cars and abandoned vehicles.
It used to a flat bed truck to take cycles across the crossing at Dartford, but it's a long time since crossed the bridge cycling.

Is there a contact for cyclist at the bridge, my preferred tricycle wouldn't fit the pictured transport.

 

[ianrauk]

It used to a flat bed truck to take cycles across the crossing at Dartford, but it's a long time since crossed the bridge cycling.

Is there a contact for cyclist at the bridge, my preferred tricycle wouldn't fit the pictured transport.

They use a transit van to ferry cyclists across now, so your trike would fit with a bit of man handling.

 

[Solocle]

Anyone with a modicum of sense of self preservation wouldn't be riding on the A282, and it's right it's not allowed, but there are numerous other roads around the country where it is allowed, in my area the A127 & A13 have stretches, particularly at slip roads that have signed routes for cyclists, which I wouldn't use just because, and yet there is a cycle track of sorts along side it, that is in a terrible state of repair, often parked on by cars and abandoned vehicles.
It used to a flat bed truck to take cycles across the crossing at Dartford, but it's a long time since crossed the bridge cycling.

Is there a contact for cyclist at the bridge, my preferred tricycle wouldn't fit the pictured transport.

Have to book in advance. https://www.gov.uk/dartford-crossing-bike