glasgowcyclist
Charming but somewhat feckless
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- Scotland
We use plants such as holly and firethorn (pyracantha) as a defensive boundary. Bloody stings when it pricks you!
Cycle Security Upset
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steveindenmark
Legendary Member
He is entitled to his opinion.
But at a guess the injured scrote would make a counter complaint which would end up with the original complaint being dismissed as well. It does happen.
Its all speculation.
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User482
Guest
I give more weight to the views of somebody who is likely to have dealt with similar situations. That's all.
steveindenmark
Legendary Member
OP
OP
classic33
Leg End Member
Entering onto private property, with intent. And then whilst on interfering with a vehicle, setting/tripping an alarm protecting it, gets suprised(brown trouser moment) and I'm liable!
I'll have the hosepipe ready should it happen again. Then I can wash him down then and there.
The sonic alarm is louder, at 150 db. Can be placed a lot closer to the ground anchor as well. But requires turning off.
@User9609, it used to be three foot from the road, then went metric.
steveindenmark
Legendary Member
If your sonic alarm frightens Mr Skrote and he trips over with the shock and injures himself. The way the world is now, it wouldnt be a surprise if he took a case against you.
Its crazy. but thats the world we live in now.
jonny jeez
Legendary Member
- Location
- Chislehurst, Kent, UK
I cant recall the distance but there was a measurement, something like 2m, from public access, like a footpath. Which meant my dad had a fence, then another fence with wire on top, slightly further in (the first fence being in existence already).
He was a local councillor so got his direction from the borough council.
It was over a decade ago though.
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
I'm not sure I follow this thread.
OP has installed an alarm containing a shotgun cartridge that explodes and goes bang. It has gone bang. That much is clear.
OP also knows/speculates that: There was an intruder, the intruder got their "arm jammed slightly" in the frame. The intruder a "brown trouser moment"
No one has taken or has threatened to take any legal action or has raised any kind of complaint.
OP is unsure whether the device is legal, so started this thread.
Answers so far: Yes, No, Maybe.
My theory is that a large spider set the alarm off. Spiders do not have eardrums, indeed they do not have ears, but they do have sensory hairs that can detect sound. If I was the OP I would be very afraid of arachnid revenge attacks.
OP has installed an alarm containing a shotgun cartridge that explodes and goes bang. It has gone bang. That much is clear.
OP also knows/speculates that: There was an intruder, the intruder got their "arm jammed slightly" in the frame. The intruder a "brown trouser moment"
No one has taken or has threatened to take any legal action or has raised any kind of complaint.
OP is unsure whether the device is legal, so started this thread.
Answers so far: Yes, No, Maybe.
My theory is that a large spider set the alarm off. Spiders do not have eardrums, indeed they do not have ears, but they do have sensory hairs that can detect sound. If I was the OP I would be very afraid of arachnid revenge attacks.
jonny jeez
Legendary Member
- Location
- Chislehurst, Kent, UK
jefmcg
Guru
As an aside, I once cycled past a car with a proximity alarm* set. I entered into it's "personal space" and was blasted with a terrifying noise, which caused me to swerve into traffic. Luckily there wasn't actually any traffic, but if I'd been in a collision, I would have sued the owner.
It took all my will power not to go back and key 3 panels of the car.
*Proximity alarms with reasonably common in Australia in the 90s. I don't know if they made an impact in the UK where it's pretty hard to keep a metre away from a car at the best of times.
It took all my will power not to go back and key 3 panels of the car.
*Proximity alarms with reasonably common in Australia in the 90s. I don't know if they made an impact in the UK where it's pretty hard to keep a metre away from a car at the best of times.
jonny jeez
Legendary Member
- Location
- Chislehurst, Kent, UK
Oh hang on, this just in.
"Section 164 of the Highways Act 1980 says that barbed wire on land adjoining a public highway must not cause a nuisance to humans or animals using the highway. Anything placed below 2.4 metres high will usually be deemed to be causing a nuisance and the local authority can issue a notice demanding its removal"
I've checked 164 and whilst it seems to support the nuisance issue I cant see the 2.4m thing.
Maybe my dad did what he did to cover all the bases...he certainly had warning signs up.
jonny jeez
Legendary Member
- Location
- Chislehurst, Kent, UK
Possibly. I also recall it being a distance, not a height but as you say this could have been local interpretation/advice.
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User482
Guest
That was my point: you talked about facts when even two ex police can't agree...I am an ex policeman
steveindenmark
Legendary Member
policemen are a bit like golfers.
We all have our own slant on the rules. It is called the "Ways and means Act". The most used piece of legislation in police forces all over the world.
