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Grant Fondo
Guru
- Location
- Cheshire
Jimmy scored more runs than Hameed .... says it all really
Grant Fondo
Guru
- Location
- Cheshire
11.30pm Christmas Day to be exact. A lovely xmas present to all the long-suffering English cricket fans!
not sure of the time difference, so is that 11am boxing day in AUS??
Grant Fondo
Guru
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- Cheshire
So 10.30am boxing day Melbourne, 11.30pm uk time on 25th.
matticus
Guru
I know it's purely academic, but anyone want to comment on this??
Aravis
Putrid Donut
- Location
- Gloucester
If the team which has the questionable benefit of my allegiance is in a position to enforce the follow-on, then generally I'm happier when they elect not to. Needing two wickets at tea on the final day is fine my me. Much more significantly, if I'm looking at 55 for 4 in the second innings I'd much rather my team is not chasing a target when this happens.
The article linked above made a lot of interesting points, but one factor it didn't mention is the weather. When the forecast suggests that interruptions are likely it makes sense to try to take the wickets as quickly as possible rather than making a lot of runs you probably won't need. Stoppages can be helpful to bowlsmen but are generally bad for batters. I'd suggest captains are more likely to enforce the follow-on when the forecast is doubtful, which tends to make a draw more likely whatever tactics are used. So the inference that a win is statistically less likely to be achieved by enforcing the follow-on could be flawed. I think that batting again could still be the more defensive option, but that doesn't make it wrong.
Pale Rider
Legendary Member
It appears David Lloyd has fallen on his racist sword at Sky, although they have granted him an honourable retirement.
Looks like Michael Holding has also thrown in the towel, although I'm not aware of any connection with racism in cricket.
Gower and Botham recently went the same way.
I reckon Lloyd will be the biggest miss, although they all did a decent job even if only his mother could love Botham.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59741382
Looks like Michael Holding has also thrown in the towel, although I'm not aware of any connection with racism in cricket.
Gower and Botham recently went the same way.
I reckon Lloyd will be the biggest miss, although they all did a decent job even if only his mother could love Botham.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59741382
Dayvo
just passin' through
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Just get tid of Mark Nicholas, he’s probably/possibly not a racist, but he’s a prize p***k!
Gower and botham retired after the last ashes series…..fair old time ago now.
Bonefish Blues
Banging donk
- Location
- 52 Festive Road
I really think that's rather unlikely...
View: https://twitter.com/SkyCricket/status/1280809870766284800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1280809870766284800%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fsport%2F2021%2Fsep%2F15%2Fformer-west-indies-bowler-michael-holding-retiring-as-tv-commentator
matticus
Guru
Eh? Assuming it's this article:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...er-michael-holding-retiring-as-tv-commentator
That just descrvibes the book he wrote, and his campaigning. It doesn't say that racism pushed him into retirememnt.
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
Eh?
The first link is to Twitter, the second to the Guardian, so that's a very odd assumption to make.
I don't think anyone's suggesting that he's retiring on anything other than his own terms.
matticus
Guru
It displays as one long link on my browser (and I can't open Twitter right now).
Meanwhile:
I know it's a very long discussion, so I'll just quote the previous relevant post:
Pale Rider said: Looks like Michael Holding has also thrown in the towel, although I'm not aware of any connection with racism in cricket.
Bonefish Blues said: I really think that's rather unlikely...
[then linked to the Guardian article]
Meanwhile:
I know it's a very long discussion, so I'll just quote the previous relevant post:
Pale Rider said: Looks like Michael Holding has also thrown in the towel, although I'm not aware of any connection with racism in cricket.
Bonefish Blues said: I really think that's rather unlikely...
[then linked to the Guardian article]
Bonefish Blues
Banging donk
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- 52 Festive Road
What do I need to do to clarify? I'm genuinely confused.
Michael Holding has retired in his mid-late 60s after over 30 years commentating, as he was indicating he would be doing when interviewed in 2019, IIRC.
He has been an outspoken campaigner against racism in cricket, and beyond, of which the SKY interview was one which particularly stuck in my mind. He also spoke about it on Desert Island Discs IIRC. I am not aware of any incidents of racism against MH directly.
That's about it, really.
