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PaulSB

Squire
Sorry to be techie but:
mjr@bletchley:~$ host www.nhs.uk
www.nhs.uk
is an alias for nhswebsite-production.edgekey.net.
nhswebsite-production.edgekey.net is an alias for e10931.ig15.akamaiedge.net.
e10931.ig15.akamaiedge.net has address 104.89.75.74

Akamai Edge is a similar sort of thing. Once that's involved (and if it's set up right), you've often no way of telling how many servers are really involved or where. Imagine a website equivalent of Legion from Red Dwarf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akamai_Technologies#Akamai_Intelligent_Edge_Platform https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_(Red_Dwarf)

As others mention, their spaceless NHS numbers were accepted... but I believe you and think such neatening might have been removed during a surge.
I've just been on the nhs.uk website to organise my son's Covid pass. At the box where one enters an NHS number the instruction is very clear giving an example as 123 456 7890
 

PaulSB

Squire
Yeah, on with the serious stuff! And kudos to your chain gang for being the first road club I've heard of continuing through winter instead of hiding under the blankets and leaving the roads to tourists and sportivers.
My club rides every weekend of the year but the mid-week evening rides only take place during BST. I've been in three clubs and each rode through the winter. All the local Lancashire clubs do the same.

Obviously numbers reduce in the colder months.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
If deaths from the booster are 1 / 100,000,000 ..
And deaths from omicron are zero ...

Then ................ :whistle:
Then both may well cause zero deaths in the UK population of about 67 million where about 10m aren't being vaccinated.

But we already know vaccination reduces illness severity and deaths from omicron and all other variants, so let's vaccinate, right?

And I will try to remember to remind you of this foolish scaremongering anti-vax post when omicron has been in the UK long enough to kill some people, even unvaccinated ones.
 

Landsurfer

Veteran
Then both may well cause zero deaths in the UK population of about 67 million where about 10m aren't being vaccinated.

But we already know vaccination reduces illness severity and deaths from omicron and all other variants, so let's vaccinate, right?

And I will try to remember to remind you of this foolish scaremongering anti-vax post when omicron has been in the UK long enough to kill some people, even unvaccinated ones.
How can i possibly be anti - vax when i have previously stated my vaccine status .... 3 jabbed ....I am anti - stupidity however.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Do you mean killed 100,000 or died within 28 days of receiving a positive test? :whistle:
Either would be fine(!)

What exactly do you all get from going on and on about the difference between the PHE/HSA mechanical death-with-days-of-positive-test and the GRO judged death-from-covid numbers? When checked for the first few months of the crisis, the difference was pretty small even then, about 3%, and the faster mechanical number enabled decisions to be taken sooner, without waiting weeks for the GRO data, saving lives.
 
Either would be fine(!)

What exactly do you all get from going on and on about the difference between the PHE/HSA mechanical death-with-days-of-positive-test and the GRO judged death-from-covid numbers? When checked for the first few months of the crisis, the difference was pretty small even then, about 3%, and the faster mechanical number enabled decisions to be taken sooner, without waiting weeks for the GRO data, saving lives.

I don't believe in a million years if I have got this right that only 3% of people who died within 28 days of testing positive with Covid died of something else and not Covid.

All the BS reporting hurts my brain, all anyone wants is accurate numbers on deaths, vaccine injury, etc.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
I don't believe in a million years if I have got this right that only 3% of people who died within 28 days of testing positive with Covid died of something else and not Covid.
Not exactly: the difference is 3%. Some who died within 28 days of testing positive died of something else, but a smaller number died from covid after 28 days or without ever testing positive, especially early on when testing was more limited.

That's not definite, but it's the best estimate there is yet. As the good book says "Anything you still can't cope with is therefore your own problem."

What difference does it make to any arguments if 147,000 or 143,000 or 134,000 in the UK have died from covid so far?

All the BS reporting hurts my brain, all anyone wants is accurate numbers on deaths, vaccine injury, etc.
The numbers are as accurate as possible but you cannot have both certainty and truth on this, or at least not yet. I think that causes a lot of people problems with this crisis. So much is probabilities and chance which people tend to be crap at. But that doesn't make the reporting BS, although it probably doesn't help that journalists have often been selected for their writing not their numeracy.

Sorry life is confusing sometimes. Good luck with it.
 
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Not exactly: the difference is 3%. Some who died within 28 days of testing positive died of something else, but a smaller number died from covid after 28 days or without ever testing positive, especially early on when testing was more limited.

It's not definite, but it's the best estimate there is. As the good book says "Anything you still can't cope with is therefore your own problem."


The numbers are as accurate as possible but you cannot have both certainty and truth on this, or at least not yet. I think that causes a lot of people problems with this crisis. So much is probabilities and chance which people tend to be crap at. But that doesn't make the reporting BS, although it probably doesn't help that journalists have often been selected for their writing not their numeracy.

MSM has been the major problem, I have read a story saying X equals Y from one source only to read in the very next article X equals Z:wacko:

Also censorship on social media, journalists that get the true story out first get censored because the mainstream narrative is usually lagging behind .

Any flu deaths recorded last year?
 
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