classic33
Leg End Member
It was the part "The vaccine comes with the role It isn’t about protecting you". I thought I'd highlighted it.
It's at odds with what NHS vaccine are saying.
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It's at odds with what NHS vaccine are saying.
vickster
Legendary Member
Clearly it’s both when talking about adults who are most at risk from Covid.
The point was being made about vaccinating children where it is mostly about protecting others as morbidity and mortality from Covid is low in under 18s.
Obviously vaccinating children against childhood diseases is about protecting them
The point was being made about vaccinating children where it is mostly about protecting others as morbidity and mortality from Covid is low in under 18s.
Obviously vaccinating children against childhood diseases is about protecting them
Craig the cyclist
Über Member
It's a big weekend for us........
https://www.england.nhs.uk/2021/06/nhs-walk-in-vaccination-sites-open-up-in-grab-a-jab-weekend/
Grab a jab weekend, no need to be registered, rock up, roll up your sleeve and get protected. If you are over 18 (or live with/know anyone who is and who hasn't been jabbed already) and haven't had your first job less than 8 weeks ago, then you are in. Easy as
https://www.england.nhs.uk/2021/06/nhs-walk-in-vaccination-sites-open-up-in-grab-a-jab-weekend/
Grab a jab weekend, no need to be registered, rock up, roll up your sleeve and get protected. If you are over 18 (or live with/know anyone who is and who hasn't been jabbed already) and haven't had your first job less than 8 weeks ago, then you are in. Easy as
Got you now. Well, the jab protects you and reduces you infecting others so It’s right IMO.
Yep same here. Not sure if it’ll be a damp squib or off like a rocket…..It's a big weekend for us........
https://www.england.nhs.uk/2021/06/nhs-walk-in-vaccination-sites-open-up-in-grab-a-jab-weekend/
Grab a jab weekend, no need to be registered, rock up, roll up your sleeve and get protected. If you are over 18 (or live with/know anyone who is and who hasn't been jabbed already) and haven't had your first job less than 8 weeks ago, then you are in. Easy as
looks like all 2nd doses moving to 8 weeks too…
KnittyNorah
Über Member
- Location
- The Frozen North (of England)
This was opened in my area of Lancashire a couple of weeks ago - walk-in first vax for all 18-pluses - and for the first week/10 days there were constant queues but it seems to have dropped off now (as would be expected). I suspect the great majority of those who want to be vaccinated, or who were easy to persuade with text messages and so on, are done and dusted, jut waiting for their second doses, and it's the recalcitrant remainder who are stubbornly refusing - vanishingly-few for good reason IMO.
Ajax Bay
Guru
- Location
- East Devon
Was unaware - our children well beyond Year 8.
Agree.
Flu_vaccination_programme_briefing_for_school_team_and_headteachers
"The flu vaccination programme [for 2-11yo] will be going ahead in the autumn. Flu and COVID-19 will both be circulating at the same time which means that it is more important than ever this year to help protect against flu. This coming season (2020-2021) the Government is extending the programme to year 7 children. Flu kills thousands of people every year. It is an unpredictable virus and the vaccine is the best protection we have against it. The main purpose of the annual flu vaccination programme for children is to reduce transmission in the community. Children can pass flu on to others in their immediate family and wider community, many of whom may be at higher risk from the complications of flu. The flu vaccination won’t protect against COVID-19 but it is critical to protecting the general health of the population, particularly those at high risk from COVID-19. All children whose parents agree for them to have the vaccine, which is given by way of a nasal spray, also benefit from the protection it provides to them as individuals."
If this (emboldened above) is the rationale for vaccinating under 12s against flu, what are the different considerations JCVI will take into account when deliberating over whether to recommend COVID-19 vaccination for under 18s? Is the safety risk of mRNA vaccines (or other) significntly greater? Is the fatality rate of seasonal flu greater than that of COVID-19? The efficacy of COVID-19 vaccination (2 doses) against symptomatic illness is 72%: much better than the flu vaccine aiui. What am I missing? (Polite answers only please.)
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Craig the cyclist
Über Member
Yep anyone eligible can get the second dose at 8 weeks. The hope is that the 8-12 week thing will stagger itself.
Ajax Bay
Guru
- Location
- East Devon
Given that the percentage benefit of 'effectiveness' gain is greater for the second dose (74-32=)42% v 32% seem to be the 'latest' figures against the Delta VoC, there should be a gentle push to invite all those with a 12 week date to rebook a month earlier. Some NHS / vaccine programme messaging would be useful to reassure people that second dose vaccination date amendment is encouraged and involves no (appointment loss) 'risk'.
neil_merseyside
Guru
- Location
- Wirral
We had our second jab (using otherwise wasted vaccine doses) at week 9, the vaccination centre did this happily as we'd passed the week 8 mark, as that was 22nd May an 'early' second jab isn't a new thing.
The challenge around moving to 8 week rather than 12 has been totally around vaccine supply.
If they promptly moved everyone ton8 weeks then the stock they have in the supply chain would not be there to also first dose the under 30s. There is enough overall stock we are told for everyone to get 2nd doses but in a phased manner.
Ultimately every jab counts and we’ll get as many done as we can this weekend and hopefully we’ll see a collective step change in the figures early next week
If they promptly moved everyone ton8 weeks then the stock they have in the supply chain would not be there to also first dose the under 30s. There is enough overall stock we are told for everyone to get 2nd doses but in a phased manner.
Ultimately every jab counts and we’ll get as many done as we can this weekend and hopefully we’ll see a collective step change in the figures early next week
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Odd not to have a link to https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coron...alk-in-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccination-site/It's a big weekend for us........
https://www.england.nhs.uk/2021/06/nhs-walk-in-vaccination-sites-open-up-in-grab-a-jab-weekend/
Grab a jab weekend, no need to be registered, rock up, roll up your sleeve and get protected. If you are over 18 (or live with/know anyone who is and who hasn't been jabbed already) and haven't had your first job less than 8 weeks ago, then you are in. Easy as
but that doesn't seem to be working correctly, as if I enter PE30 1AA for King's Lynn, the top result is Basildon! The second is "St James Medical Practice (SA Surgery)" which actually means it's St Augustine's, not St James, but they only do Pfizer first doses and only Friday afternoons, so no good this weekend. Third is Boston, 25 miles away but across sea.
Look, I know you all think the NHS vaccination website is wonderful, but this really is so bad you should wonder which of Hancok's kissing cousins got the contract to run it.
I'm glad I've had both doses already, even if the booking website did cock up for jab 2, leaving the great site volunteers and workers to fix the admin on the spot.
classic33
Leg End Member
It's not the website that's "wonderful" in this. For me it's the people on the ground, doing the actual work.
You've seemed intent on finding fault with the system from the word go. How about taking a step back and look at the work that's been done by those folk. And appreciate the effort they've made since this kicked off.
Andy in Germany
Guru
- Location
- Rottenburg am Neckar
I think that's the point being made: the people on the ground, as is so often the case, are working extremely hard to make this work, If the people running the next level of organisation like the website are ineffective, then they make it much more difficult for the volunteers they are supposed to support which wastes their time and disparages their efforts.
