COVID Vaccine !

[roubaixtuesday]

So good to fark my borough?!?!? Wow.

They've not done the easiest places AFAICT from the limited info dribbling out. They've not done the worst-affected places first either, for which an argument could be made. They've done the cities first, then a few multi-town clusters. Rural and semirural area hubs seem to be at the back of the queue. It's like most infrastructure grants. Kill the bumpkins

Can't agree. Doses to date are very limited, and logistics very difficult with this specific vaccine. Attempting a rural rollout would risk wasting doses. It seems very sensible to me.

 

[mjr]

Care Home residents (and those in other institutions) aren't likely to be treated soon due to transport difficulties with this particular vaccine.

No one official has told them that. They are being left guessing, rushing preparations that probably don't need rushing, wasting scarce resources.

Non institution priority vaccinees around here reportedly also told nothing yet. Not even the motorists among them.

 

[mjr]

Can't agree. Doses to date are very limited, and logistics very difficult with this specific vaccine. Attempting a rural rollout would risk wasting doses. It seems very sensible to me.

I bet you the cities get the other vaccines first too. Our main hope is if Brexit farks the ports and the military starts flying it in because we have a big air base fairly close to the hospital.

 

[tom73]

Clear clinical and supply issues will be what's driving the roll out what ever the government and co may say this will take as long as it takes.
Staff are will be working hard to get this vaccine into arms as quick as they can. This is on top of all the other day to days services which are expected to run along side this. Many of the staff are going this out side of these services so the least we can do is give them some slick.
Until other easier vaccines come along the only way to go is steady and making every dose count. Which will mean coverage of supply will be limited to given areas.It's not just a jab like any medicine it needs and requires full medicine management from factory to clinician giving it. The requirements of this vaccine make that management all the harder.
Country wide Primary care roll out will not be this year. The task of working though GP's list and deciding which people to call and when is massive task alone. The NHS can do this if it's left to get on with it yes problems will came you can't prevent that. Once other vaccines come on line things can go a little quicker. We all just have hold on in and wait hard to do I know but we don't have an option. I'm well down the list and know it will be some months yet but that's how it is.

 

[screenman]

Just been for an ECG and had a chat about the vaccine, seems that ours will be given at a hospital about 20 miles away, which by bus is a big problem and would take a couple of them at least and they do not connect well. Fine for the majority of us that drive. but not so for the elderly or others that may not drive.

 

[tom73]

Just wonderful to see public vaccination start today. Apparently, one William Shakespeare was second in line!

Generally, IMV, the govt covid response has been contemptible.

But, credit where it's due, their vaccine strategy has been clear and well executed from the start AFAICT.

I don't think it's reasonable to criticise for limited geographical rollout of the very first doses of the very first vaccine. Better to ensure it's done in the easiest places first and learn from that, as logistics are very challenging and volumes are limited anyway.

We'll see how the rollout goes, but so far, so good.

Let's hope they just let them get on with it and we don't end up with T&T vaccine mess.
Things are going well time will tell but get to this point is a credit to all the ones who on one will ever know. All the little cogs that just to the job day in day out. Just hope the public hold out and loose it as it downs how long this will take and many will have to wait some time.

 

[Archie_tect]

Just been for an ECG and had a chat about the vaccine, seems that ours will be given at a hospital about 20 miles away, which by bus is a big problem and would take a couple of them at least and they do not connect well. Fine for the majority of us that drive. but not so for the elderly or others that may not drive.

Then it is time for neighbours with cars to take on the responsibility to take people to hospital;- it's for their benefit too... oops no, can't do that with social distancing can we?... as you were. Life's complicated.

 

[screenman]

Then it is time for neighbours with cars to take on the responsibility to take people to hospital;- it's for their benefit too... oops no, can't do that with social distancing can we?... as you were. Life's complicated.

I suggest volunteer drivers vaccinated before hand may help.

 

[vickster]

Haven’t nhs volunteers been taking people to appointments throughout the pandemic? How would this be different beyond sheer volume of people?

 

[lazybloke]

I bet you the cities get the other vaccines first too. Our main hope is if Brexit farks the ports and the military starts flying it in because we have a big air base fairly close to the hospital.

What seems unfair to individuals or small communities might be justified for the greater benefit to society as a whole; I can see reasons why vaccination should start in, and be co-ordinated from, cities.

My vulnerable loved ones don't live in cities, so I'm not keen on them having to wait either - but I prefer them to wait until they have local vaccination facilities than for them to travel into some urban centre where they'd be at high risk of infection.

There's more gen on current & proposed prioritisations in the NHS announcement that was published last weekend, including something on care homes. Also a list of the 50 hospitals that will home vaccination hubs, as well as the intended use of GP and community health workers, plus various venues such as sports halls.

My greatest worry is how long this will all take?

 

[roubaixtuesday]

My greatest worry is how long this will all take?

Looks likely to be limited by supply of vaccines atm.

Maybe middle of next year best case? End of next year worst case??

 

[Archie_tect]

I suggest volunteer drivers vaccinated before hand may help.

As long as they do volunteer for the benefit of their community and don't just it as an excuse to queue jump!
When did I become so cynical?

 

[roubaixtuesday]

View: https://twitter.com/ConMend/status/1336249743182327808

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Gove concedes on EU position on NI protocol.


View: https://twitter.com/michaelgove/status/1336298315487567873


I predict the same from Johnson tomorrow on the other issues, followed by claims of a British victory over perfidious continent.

 

[Archie_tect]

Gove concedes on EU position on NI protocol.


View: https://twitter.com/michaelgove/status/1336298315487567873


I predict the same from Johnson tomorrow on the other issues, followed by claims of a British victory over perfidious continent.

Then the truth will slowly drip feed out after the final vote....