COVID Vaccine !

[Pale Rider]

This has long been a hobby horse of mine in many diverse areas of life "oh you just need to go online at" isn't true for some

I will join you on that hobby horse if, in the words of Rolf Harris, there's room for two.

My vaccine invitation was sent via a text with a specific to me hyperlink to the booking site.

Fine if you can touch on it and enter text on a relatively small smartphone, but my phone doesn't do hyperlinks, so I had to transcribe the long link into my web browser.

I coped, manfully, but the majority of elderly people I know wouldn't get past first base without help.

 

[lane]

Add into that the willingness of employers to allow workers to miss work time and especially those who don't get paid if they are not at work. Those with precarious contracts tend to be poorer and therefore more at risk and exactly the groups we need to reach.

I have seen some talk that when we get to younger groups they may visit work premises to do on site.

 

[lane]

I know some elderly where I live had had problems and that is people with enough IT savy to be on the local Facebook group.

 

[SkipdiverJohn]

The priority list could also be seen as a reverse ski slope of vaccine take up - it's the younger people who tend to be more resistant to being vaccinated.

All of which makes achieving a fast and high percentage take up of the lower priority groups harder to do.

I won't be bothering to have it, once they start offering it to the lower age groups. I'm just not that concerned about the virus. Half the population will have either had the vaccine or the virus itself, by the end of March anyway. There won't be so much virus circulating around, and a high proportion of the population will have some level of immunity, so there will be less and less benefit going forward in bothering to get the vaccine.

 

[vickster]

My parents just phoned up when they received their letter having struggled online. Very simple

 

[Venod]

@Pale Rider

I was talking about the process of getting people in and out quickly, you may well be right about the take up

 

[PaulSB]

I will join you on that hobby horse if, in the words of Rolf Harris, there's room for two.

My vaccine invitation was sent via a text with a specific to me hyperlink to the booking site.

Fine if you can touch on it and enter text on a relatively small smartphone, but my phone doesn't do hyperlinks, so I had to transcribe the long link into my web browser.

I coped, manfully, but the majority of elderly people I know wouldn't get past first base without help.

It is a very real problem and one which is often overlooked. I only know one person who cannot/will not access IT but know several who chose not to use certain aspects of the web.

The person who doesn't use IT is phoned to keep her up to date and included in stuff everyone else gets via email. Newsletters are printed out and popped through the door. No one complains but it makes her reliant on others which of course has both positives and negatives.

I also have a whole range of friends who chose not to use one or all of WhatsApp, Facebook, Messenger, Zoom etc. Clearly their choice but it doesn't help communication and organisations need to consider this.

 

[PK99]

All my friends are banging the doors down for a vaccination. I only know one person who won't have it. She also refused pain relief when she broke both wrists!

To be serious though the uptake in my social circle is 100% bar one person. We are all retired, the vast majority over 60 and everyone is totally on board with being vaccinated. We literally are excited........gives us a day out you see!

100% for the folks I know too. Not even any discussion about not having it.

 

[Ajax Bay]

Edit to add: In the news: Deputy Chairman of the JCVI:"Vaccine uptake among care home staff remains "far too low" (66%)." (NB Gp 1 - my estimate is 700k care home staff; so 230k NOT vaccinated (presumably mostly refusers rather than 'unable' or 'unavailable'). Will impact, obliquely, on the tragic issue of care home residents not being allowed visitors.

the majority of elderly people I know wouldn't get past first base without help.

But I hope that nearly all those you're calling "elderly" have been 'done' by now. Anyone under 65 is (a) not elderly and (b) vast proportion are IT capable. There is a small element not for luddite or other reasons. I hope they have community support and/or can use a telephone.

they may visit work premises to do on site.

I guess they 'may' but it doesn't seem efficient so I rather doubt it.

I won't be bothering to have it,

John - please consider that it helps the community as well as the 'individual you' for you to have a high percentage protection. This assumes that vaccination will also reduce viral transmission - emerging evidence. There are some who won't be given vaccination because their doctor recommends them not to, and some who refuse on various religious or other grounds. But if the only rationale for not getting vaccinated is 'I can't be bothered' and 'there won't be much of it around by then' you are not including in your consideration those whom you might infect, if you do catch it.

 

[PK99]

I will join you on that hobby horse if, in the words of Rolf Harris, there's room for two.

My vaccine invitation was sent via a text with a specific to me hyperlink to the booking site.

Fine if you can touch on it and enter text on a relatively small smartphone, but my phone doesn't do hyperlinks, so I had to transcribe the long link into my web browser.

I coped, manfully, but the majority of elderly people I know wouldn't get past first base without help.

A friend's brother, 70's, dyslexic, computer illiterate wife lives in Virginia.

With no NHS to call folks in, they have to go online to book a slot. Being dyslexic, it takes him ages to navigate the online forms and enter their details, by which time all the slots are full. Been trying for a couple of weeks.

I had two invitations from two bits of NHS and booking was a simple click through.

 

[lane]

Visiting workplaces is efficient if it gets the take up rate higher

 

[lane]

I won't be bothering to have it, once they start offering it to the lower age groups. I'm just not that concerned about the virus. Half the population will have either had the vaccine or the virus itself, by the end of March anyway. There won't be so much virus circulating around, and a high proportion of the population will have some level of immunity, so there will be less and less benefit going forward in bothering to get the vaccine.

Ok but don't come on here complaining
when the restrictions last longer than expected

 

[dodgy]

Is there a correlation between leavers and anti-vaxers? Seems it.

 

[SkipdiverJohn]

Deputy Chairman of the JCVI:"Vaccine uptake among care home staff remains "far too low" (66%)." (NB Gp 1 - my estimate is 700k care home staff; so 230k NOT vaccinated (presumably mostly refusers rather than 'unable' or 'unavailable'). Will impact, obliquely, on the tragic issue of care home residents not being allowed visitors.

Two word explanation for that statistic - Ethnic Minorities. High percentage of care staff are from minorities, and a high proportion are vaccine-sceptic for one reason or another. Not really much you can do about it either - as anyone treated differently to anyone else because they haven't had the vaccine will just play the discrimination card and the lawyers will have a field day.
Same goes for things like customers getting served by a business. They will shy well away from going down a "no jab, no service" route as it leaves them wide open to litigation.
In a year's time, Coronavirus related illness or discrimination claims will be the next ambulance-chasing legal trend, after PPI and pensions and investments mis-selling.

 

[midlife]

Two word explanation for that statistic - Ethnic Minorities. High percentage of care staff are from minorities, and a high proportion are vaccine-sceptic for one reason or another. Not really much you can do about it either - as anyone treated differently to anyone else because they haven't had the vaccine will just play the discrimination card and the lawyers will have a field day.
Same goes for things like customers getting served by a business. They will shy well away from going down a "no jab, no service" route as it leaves them wide open to litigation.
In a year's time, Coronavirus related illness or discrimination claims will be the next ambulance-chasing legal trend, after PPI and pensions and investments mis-selling.

There are 9 protected characteristics where you can claim discrimination, "no Covid vaccination" is not on the list.