Cost of fuel.

[BrumJim]

I love these old rememberances:

I remember, back in the early 70's when I was 16, that I could take a girlfriend out for an evening in a pub, a bag of chips each and some essential love accessories for less than two quid. 😜

I could do better than that:

Meet up with a girl in a pub. She realises its just you, so goes off to talk to someone else. After a pint of beer on your own, you realise that she's not coming back to talk to you, drinking beer on your own is no fun, and you still have that love accessory you bought a couple of years ago and never used.
80p spent.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

for context of what i said above

Crude oil per barrel March 2008 - $150 ( at its highest point)
Petrol 106
Diesel 113

Crude oil per barrel March 2022 - $110
Petrol 152
Diesel 155

so thats $40 dollars less per barrel, but on average 40p more per litre

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Indeed, but you got $2 USD to the £1 back in March 2008.

March 2008 - £75 a barrel
March 2022 - £82 a barrel

Barrels cost us more in 2022.

Fuel Duty has risen 15% in 14 years, so hardly at all. Plus you have 14 years inflation on wages and property rents.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Cheapskate

Oi!

I'll have you know that I used to get up at 5.30am to walk the three miles to town just to clean floors in the big Tesco - before school which was another 3 mile walk to get there.

Mopping and buffing was a hard earned way to get my teen essentials; and I had to spend wisely.

Chips were a luxury back then! 😁

 

[SpokeyDokey]

I could do better than that:

Meet up with a girl in a pub. She realises its just you, so goes off to talk to someone else. After a pint of beer on your own, you realise that she's not coming back to talk to you, drinking beer on your own is no fun, and you still have that love accessory you bought a couple of years ago and never used.
80p spent.

You should've bought her some chips. ❤️

 

[Jenkins]

for context of what i said above

Crude oil per barrel March 2008 - $150 ( at its highest point)
Petrol 106
Diesel 113

Crude oil per barrel March 2022 - $110
Petrol 152
Diesel 155

so thats $40 dollars less per barrel, but on average 40p more per litre

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March 2008 - 1 GBP = 1.98 USD so a barrel cost was £75.75
March 2022 - 1 GBP = 1.33 USD so a barrel cost is now higher at £82.70
Add on various fuel duty increases since then (not for the past 8 years or so though) an that's where the increase has come from

Figures from: https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/b...rical-spot-exchange-rates/gbp/GBP-to-USD-2008

Edited to add fuel duty rates from https://www.gov.uk/government/stati...tin/historical-hydrocarbon-oils-duty-rates--2

Date of change	Leaded petrol and other light oils	Unleaded petrol	Bioethanol	Diesel	Biodiesel/blended	Aviation gasoline	Rebated heavy oil - fuel oil	Rebated heavy oil - gas oil	Road fuel gases - natural gas	Road fuel gases - all other gases
01 April 2008	60.07	50.35	30.35	50.35	30.35	30.03	9.29	9.69	0.1370	0.1649
01 December 2008	62.07	52.35	32.35	52.35	32.35	31.03	9.66	10.07	0.1660	0.2077
01 April 2009	62.07	54.19	34.19	54.19	34.19	31.03	10.00	10.42	0.1926	0.2482
01 May 2009	63.91	54.19	34.19	54.19	34.19	33.34	10.00	10.42	0.1926	0.2482
01 September 2009	65.91	56.19	36.19	56.19	36.19	34.57	10.37	10.80	0.2216	0.2767
01 April 2010	66.91	57.19	57.19	57.19	57.19	38.35	10.55	10.99	0.2360	0.3053
01 October 2010	67.91	58.19	58.19	58.19	58.19	38.35	10.74	11.18	0.2505	0.3195
01 January 2011	68.67	58.95	58.95	58.95	58.95	38.35	10.88	11.33	0.2615	0.3304
23 March 2011	67.67	57.95	57.95	57.95	57.95	37.70	10.70	11.14	0.2470	0.3161
01 January 2021	67.67	57.95	57.95	57.95	57.95	38.20	10.70	11.14	0.2470	0.3161

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Chips were a luxury back then! 😁

They were part of my five portions a day diet

 

[Deleted member 1258]

You still have that love accessory you bought a couple of years ago and never used.
80p spent.

It would sit in the back of the wallet till the writing had worn of the packet.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Costco unleaded £1.43 Big bad diesel £1.47 . My local BP aka Dick Turpin’s garage add 12p a litre on top of those prices. I’ve not been up at the motorway services at Kinross but my guess is that they will be up at £1.70 ish .

 

[Brandane]

Let's not forget that the introduction of E10 petrol to replace E5 means that we now have 10% (rather than the previous 5%) of petrol made with some sort of plant/flower substance that simply burns off into thin air and contributes nothing to the forward motion of a motor vehicle. Being fleeced? Not much!

 

[midlife]

Ethanol improves petrol combustion as it contains oxygen. My methanol injected car put out over 400 BHP which had impressive forward motion

 

[Deleted member 1258]

Let's not forget that the introduction of E10 petrol to replace E5 means that we now have 10% (rather than the previous 5%) of petrol made with some sort of plant/flower substance that simply burns off into thin air and contributes nothing to the forward motion of a motor vehicle. Being fleeced? Not much!

The E10 has made my Suzuki Swift's forward motion noticeably more urgent, unfortunately its also increased the vehicle's thirst, but that doesn't matter I'm still getting 45mpg.

 

[Brandane]

Ethanol improves petrol combustion as it contains oxygen. My methanol injected car put out over 400 BHP which had impressive forward motion

I thought the oxygen came from the air intake, and that the correct fuel/air mixture was done by electronic trickery these days.
All I know is that my 100 or so BHP Suzuki S-Cross used to average low 50's mpg on E5 petrol. Now it is consistently mid 40's.

 

[midlife]

I thought the oxygen came from the air intake, and that the correct fuel/air mixture was done by electronic trickery these days.
All I know is that my 100 or so BHP Suzuki S-Cross used to average low 50's mpg on E5 petrol. Now it is consistently mid 40's.

Sorry, I was being a bit flippant. C2H5OH does contain oxygen but is not seen by the Ecu trying to run stoichiometric.

 

[cougie uk]

Quite a lot of OAPs are also drivers. I cannot walk any reasonable distance so need my car. I can use a trike but not practical for day to day use where I live.

But not huge mileages. The cost of petrol isn't much compared to the cost of buying and maintaining a car.

 

[MrGrumpy]

The E10 has made my Suzuki Swift's forward motion noticeably more urgent, unfortunately its also increased the vehicle's thirst, but that doesn't matter I'm still getting 45mpg.

That E10 fuel throws up engine management lights on my lads mini ! He has to run on the super unleaded stuff . Going to experiment with fuel additive and cheap fuel ! My other lads 208 failed it’s MOT on emissions , garage reckoned it was the fuel ! They chucked some additive in and it fixed itself . Both cars younger than 2011.