Cost of fuel.

[Brandane]

A car filled to capacity is meaningless as it’s as rare as hens teeth. It’s not the reality. The reality is bumper to bumper cars with just the driver in them.

But if you're going to present it as a legitimate comparison, you have to assume both types of transport are operating to capacity. Otherwise I might as well post a photo of 5 buses and one car, making similar claims about the space taken up!

 

[Ming the Merciless]

But if you're going to present it as a legitimate comparison, you have to assume both types of transport are operating to capacity. Otherwise I might as well post a photo of 5 buses and one car, making similar claims about the space taken up!

In what scenario are cars going to be filled to capacity? Not going to happen whereas bus filled to capacity can happen with right incentives.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Do away with children and in the relatively not too distant future, we can do away with all cars, buses, trains, planes, trucks…even bicycles Not to mention fossil fuels… Job done

I think you have something there, but no UK Government will go for it, personally I think any person who replicates more than just to replace either their partner or themselves is being irresponsible.

 

[winjim]

I think you have something there, but no UK Government will go for it, personally I think any person who replicates more than just to replace either their partner or themselves is being irresponsible.

Our government has a two child policy.

 

[classic33]

No it doesn't.
That bus is a 52 seater (approx)..
The line of cars is hard to count as it disappears into the distance for effect, but I counted at least 20. Each car can probably hold about 5 people, so I make that 100.
So how is that representative? It isn't, it doesn't even try. Just more BS from people with an anti car agenda. 😄

I count 72 stood at the side of it.

 

[Brandane]

I count 72 stood at the side of it.

Must be a very cramped seating arrangement in the bus then? Or allowing for standing passengers too, if that is even allowed in these elfin safety days.
On a recount of the cars, there are actually at least 30 of them, so 150 potential people being carried. Whatever way you look at it, it is BS...

 

[johnnyb47]

I travel around 35 miles to work and back and it now costs me an extra £5 a week.I do car share though which really helps in keeping the costs down.
There must be thousands of vehicles on our roads each day with only one occupant in them going to work ect, when they could be used to give others a lift to the same place.It cuts congestion,and pollution if we could all car share.
Diesel were I live has gone up by a 9p a litre in a week to £1.70.
Time to start using the veg oil in my old burner again I think 🤔

 

[Gillstay]

Thing is, at idle an engine uses bugger all fuel.

At work, a couple of years back, we had a car that had somehow got locked with the keys inside and the engine running. It sat at the back of the yard for about three DAYS before it ran out of fuel!

So why leave it polluting for so long. Blocking the exhaust or the fuel line would have stopped it.

 

[gzoom]

For people who can afford a car like that the price of fuel is not an issue…

£60 for 10 mile, or £600 a month if you do 1000 miles a month, add in £200-300/month for home energy costs, every one will feel it!!

Crude oil prices is currently a vertical line upwards, so £2/l might seem cheap in a weeks time. After all we have all come to accept 30p per kWh for electricity verus half of that only 12 months ago, but what choice is there?

Inflation was near double digit before all this madness, what will it be this quarter? 10%+, the Bank of England will have to do something, but increasing interest rates will fuel the inflation cycle......

We are rapidly heading into the financial unknown, this war sadly isn't ending any time soon. China is now making some noises. If China is forced to support Putin (autocracy will support autocracy), the economic impact on the world economy will make current events look like a fun day out in the park.

All of us should be thankful we have our homes and families safe, but I have no doubt we are heading for big drop in living standards, which is a small price to pay in the bigger picture. Big luxury V6/V8 cars will be the first thing to go.

 

[jowwy]

In theory but the number of buses is tiny compared to amount of traffic.

This photo demonstrates the space taken up by bus, cycle, car for same number of people.

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Too many assumptions in those pictures for the comparison to be truelly representative

 

[jowwy]

In what scenario are cars going to be filled to capacity? Not going to happen whereas bus filled to capacity can happen with right incentives.

So can cars with the right incentives too………ive never seen a bus filled to capacity, not my old school bus back in the day

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Over a hundred homes in our village and no bus service at all let alone a convenient bus service.

Last village we lived in had one bus per week on Friday morning and it returned Friday afternoon.

Can't see that changing - ever.

 

[jowwy]

Over a hundred homes in our village and no bus service at all let alone a convenient bus service.

Last village we lived in had one bus per week on Friday morning and it returned Friday afternoon.

Can't see that changing - ever.

car or bike it is then lol

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Over a hundred homes in our village and no bus service at all let alone a convenient bus service.

Last village we lived in had one bus per week on Friday morning and it returned Friday afternoon.

Can't see that changing - ever.

They, the the local council are trying to push through a new housing development in the nearby town for 1600 houses in a green belt, there is no provision for shops, schools, dentists, GP's nor public transport, anybody who lives there will be reliant on a car.

 

[mjr]

They, the the local council are trying to push through a new housing development in the nearby town for 1600 houses in a green belt, there is no provision for shops, schools, dentists, GP's nor public transport, anybody who lives there will be reliant on a car.

Most of that is due to national government policies. The local council has no choice. The infrastructure levy (schools, minimal public transport) and council tax comes after the houses are built. The NHS allocates resources for doctors and dentists after the houses are occupied. No-one is backing up local councils to require non-car transport infrastructure: Active Travel England is taking ages to set up and should improve stuff for cycling and walking but still no one will be requiring bus gates and lanes. So car use is established early and is a hard habit to break.