Joey Shabadoo
My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
'Sakes. Just been into Asda in Gala and they've absolutely no pasta or loo roll. Lassie at the checkout said yesterday was chaos, with people piling trolleys high.
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cookiemonster
Squire
- Location
- Hong Kong
That’s my fear too. We thought Taiwan were over-reacting by, basically, shutting themselves off. It’s worked. In Hong Kong, despite having a border with China, some of the most densely populated places on the planet, we have 125 cases and 3 deaths. Because HK shut schools, workplaces and stopped large gatherings of people. Everything the UK Gov is refusing to do.
glasgowcyclist
Charming but somewhat feckless
- Location
- Scotland
Perhaps they've been denied tests...
View: https://twitter.com/trishgreenhalgh/status/1237337876842647552
Many won't have been tested. 1500 is going to be very limited geographically, very thinly spread out over very many locations. It's not clear why this is, whether PHE and the government were lying, whether they were misleading, whether they promised things they can't deliver or have been blocked by other countries getting hands on the kits first. Whichever way it is, it's bad. I get what many others have said even on here that when it really kicks off, tests will run out.
Italy are testing far more people as I suspect looking at the maps and death rates that (that will grow a lot as they are overwhelmed) maybe there are something like another 10-20,000 people in Italy who have it.
Is it not just delaying the inevitable though? Surely the point is to smooth out the peak(s) of chronic cases, whilst balancing the economic impact and the impact that isolation will have on the population. Give it a few weeks and I am sure we will hear of cases where vulnerable people starved to death due to the lock downs.
cookiemonster
Squire
- Location
- Hong Kong
That hasn’t happened here. Why would it happen in the UK?
Low Gear Guy
Veteran
- Location
- Surrey
At this rate, there will soon be people selling toilet rolls from unmarked vans.
Second hand? Partially used? 🤔
kingrollo
Guru
But even if that is true - what action is being taken to smooth out the peaks ? - Apart from telling everyone to wash their hands what has the UK govt done ?
Ming the Merciless
There is no mercy
- Location
- Inside my skull
The advice has been to carry on as normal. As pointed out above the 111 online assessor is all about your travel movements or known contact with people who’ve been to “hotspots”. Very little about the symptoms.
My wife had flu last week and had most of the classic symptoms. We were advised to treat it as normal flu. She had fever for about 36 hours. It is a difficult one as Covid19 will present as normal flu or even just a cold for a great many. But at the moment the UK health bodies are not looking for or assuming community transmission.
My wife is better now and at its height my nose ran for a couple of days. But we have no idea if it was Covid19 as NHS not interested in testing. In fact I don’t think they have the capacity to do that this time of year even if they wanted.
Like many here it’s your parents or grand parents you worry about the most. Death through your lungs filling with liquid is no way to go.
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fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
- Location
- South Manchester
I'll see if my colleague is in tomorrow - her husband arrives home tonight - NHS advice is carry on, despite him being in self isolation.
glasgowcyclist
Charming but somewhat feckless
- Location
- Scotland
They seem to be crossing their fingers and hoping for the best.
Take the Nadine Dorries incident; the PM and other ministers are not undergoing testing, with the Department of Health justifying this because only her close contacts with symptoms will need to self-isolate. Since the symptoms can take 14 days to present, wouldn't it be a wise thing to test all of her close contacts? Why let them run around potentially infecting the rest of government while they remain asymptomatic?
Also, there's no mention in any of the news reports which of the category 1 or category 2 countries she has recently returned from so is this a community infection?
nickyboy
Norven Mankey
- Location
- You want hills? We got hills
The numbers tested are very interesting
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/covid-19-testing/
As you can see UK is towards the top of the league when it comes to tests per million of population. Far higher than, say France which has far more cases than UK
So it leads one to speculate...
Perhaps the key is how connected the country is to the explosion of cases in N Italy? France, Germany, Switzerland all appear to have a lot more cases per capita than UK and presumably they are a lot more connected to N Italy.
I don't know what's going on in Spain which seems to be like France and Germany but presumably isn't particularly connected to N Italy. Maybe UK dodges the bullet a bit because it isn't closely associated with N Italy?
kingrollo
Guru
I can't believe anyone seriously thinks there is no community transmission.!!!
Ming the Merciless
There is no mercy
- Location
- Inside my skull
Exactly specially in pubs and such like.
As for self isolation for two weeks. Unless you live in a mansion with many rooms that’s not going to happen. The closest you’ll get it some form of household isolation and minimal to no social engagements. But shopping trips will still occur by whomever in the household feels well enough.
